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Posts: 123Location: Salt Lake CityOccupation: Retired. Twice: Civilian HR manager and US Army officerThank you.
Robert V. Leonard
I am now alternating back and forth between painting the horizontal stabilizers and the upper wings…
Letting this dry for a bit while i get back to work on painting the stabilizers…
The finish dries a little bit flat. I’m probably gonna carefully sand it with wet 10000 grit and then put some GX-114 on it, but maybe after i get the leading slats and flaps painted.
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OK, i got the wing leading edges done.
This was all done using Tamiya LP-11 as a base, and then adding small amounts of Mr Color C-338.
…And when i ran out of C-338 i started adding Super White instead.
I experimented a little bit with LP-72 , Mica Silver but i found it to be flaky and chunky and it just scattered the reflected light all over the place.
The inboard leading edge wing sections are just plain old LP-11 silver, since i noticed in photos it looked a bit brighter than the outer slat sections.
Up next methinks, will be the brighter, shinier areas aft of the aft spar.
Watch this space…
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Looking better and better at each installment, Dave,
I have to admit the anticipation to see the completed model is killing me! Kinda like watching paint dry…or Olympic curling…you gotta be patient and let it evolve.
Cheers!
Tom
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It definitely takes a while. Keep in mind though this is my first 727 model; i’m figuring out stuff as i go along.
And unless i’m paid fabulous amounts of money, this is definitely my last Revell 727.
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…Keep in mind though this is my first 727 model; i’m figuring out stuff as i go along…
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And that’s what makes this build so awesome, David!
We’ve watched you re-engineer this Revell kit from the very first steps, and while sometimes your ideas didn’t work out you only backed up and tried something else. For those of us who have worked with this kit before and accepted its foibles (or given up), we know what it looks like as a finished model and can spot it easily in a model collection.
You have completely obliterated that. As I wrote a few weeks ago, if you only showed a photo or two from last week with the white crown and cheat line painted, plus the rudder and some other parts, any of us would be hard-pressed to recognize this nearly finished model as the Revell 727 kit from our youth. And to those seeing the recent photos who are not familiar with the kit, they would think it’s from some manufacturer they’ve never heard of (or maybe a press-fit kit). I wish I could see it up close and personal because I’m sure it would blow me away with the magic you’ve performed here.
Fortunately you have left copious notes for the rest to work along and avoid some of the dead ends you discovered (or ways NOT to do something). Still, it comes down to skill and your techniques and abilities with gluing and painting are really quite advanced and we can learn from your instruction. You’ve done well.
I’m about to start on the X-Scale DC-8-50 (using 26 Decals’ Braniff “Flying Colors” set) and will be re-reading your descriptions of the Northwest Orient -30 build (I’m thinking the JT3D turbofan engines will make things a little less complicated — no translating exhaust sections).
I came across the definitive photo of a 727 tail, including part of the horizontal stab. I would like to post it, but I don’t want to cause another derailment of your thread. Nonetheless, it may help you (or someone else following this thread and ready to build their own 727) as you round the base leg to final. I’ll let you determine if I ought to or not.
Cheers!
Tom
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Latest update on the 727 wings.
I applied SM-208 Super Duralumin to the aft wing. Directly onto the (sanded) Revell plastic. No LP-11 undercoat this time.
It might seem a bit dark in the photos, but just like on the DC-8 when seen by the naked eye- it’s brilliant (literally).
Also seen here, the horizontal tailplane has been painted with Tamiya LP-11, Mr Color C-338 and SM-208 for the elevators.
Up next- Wing Spoilers.
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David, the wings and tail planes are looking really nice!
With all that yellow tape, it’s easy to mistake the model for a Hughes Airwest 727 “Flying Banana” (not that any of the Airwest -100s saw Sundance Yellow. Management had sold off the three aircraft some time before the route network had expanded to justify longer range and larger capacity airliners like the -200 offered).
Cheers!
Tom
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Brainfart at 6:52AM:
In looking over photos of Northwest Orient 727-100s in the original paint scheme, i picked up on something sorta interesting:
There were two sizes of NORTHWEST titles.
The original scheme had NORTHWEST applied above the blue cheatline, beginning directly above the first cabin window and it extended aft almost to the first overwing exit (window 19). On the starboard side, it spanned across the cabin loading door located just forward of the wing (Beginning at window 13).
Beginning with the later 727 planes with the revised “red wedgie” on the nose, we see a smaller, somewhat truncated NORTHWEST that ends at about Window 14, as seen from the left side.
Some 727-100s with the later revised scheme have the smaller logos, but not all of them.
It’s been hard to get good photos, but it seems the prominent grey gap seals seen on the 707 and 720 wings are not there, but it may just be a lack of good clear imagery of the wing upper surfaces. There’s no shortage of photos of the 727-200 upper wings, but by that point many operators painted the entire aft wing surface BAC 707 Grey.
There’s definitely more colour variations on the 727-100 wings than the -200.
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OK, i’m done enough with the wings, that i feel i can get back to the fuselage…
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State of play on my 727…
The bare metal finish on the belly has been “roughed-in”, as has the BAC 707 Grey Wing-Body Fairing (WBF).
Due to the complex masking involved, painting of said fairing was done in 4 separate masking/spraying iterations:
Portside forward
Starboard Forward
Portside Aft
Starboard side Aft.
There are a couple more areas on the belly that i want to mask and paint: The airstair door, The main landing gear doors, and what i think may have been a painted aluminium section on the WBF in the region of the Galley loading door on the right side.
Then the plan is to clear coat the underside to prepare if for oils so i can dirty up the undersides….
More to come…
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Colors looking great. A comment on the two protrusions from the aft wing tip. As you have depicted, the outboard shaft is the rear projecting white navigation;/position light. While many early planes had two bulbs in the tip of the vertical stab, white rear facing lights were positioned on the wing tips. These were easier to access to replace bulbs. TelTail floods were also mounted there but they had a large flood lamp facing the tail.
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You might have been wondering whats been going on…
To recap, the blue green cheat line and windshield was masked and painted by hand.
The gold cheatline (most of it anyway) was harvested from ATP decal sheet #18, designed for United Airlines Caravelles and 737-100/-200s. I tried my best to cut as much excess clear decal film as i could (i wanted to minimize the amount that went over the bare metal).
I began at the rear of the fuselage with a pinstripe segment just a little over 2 inches long.
I originally tried to make a tool from Tamiya tape, to set the spacing away from the blue cheat line, but in the end i just applied the cheatline segment by hand and did the alignment using the Mk 1 eyeball. The second segment extends forward to the forward edge of the left cabin door.
I harvested the forward segment from the Classic Airlines decal, since it was printed with a curved front end to better wrap around the nose/radome.
The forward FRONTIER logo was cut from the cheat line decal and applied separately above the cheat line. The gold bow and arrow that goes on the tail was a stand alone decal, so it was just a matter of cutting away as much redundant clear decal film as i could.
The last thing i did (today) was i applied a forward boarding door from the Authentic Airliners 727 window decal sheet.
I think my next step will be to seal the decals down with another coat of Super Clear, before i begin work on the right side.
More to come…
-d-
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In a word — WOW!!
The LACI #2 engine exhaust cascade looks really good, much better than a decal depiction. Great job on the gold pinstripe. Can’t wait to see how the starboard side turns out!
Cheers!
Tom
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OK, got windows on the left hand side now…
Unlike previous experiences with these AA windows decals, i was able to apply them in one, continuous strip.
And didn’t have any problems with them being spaced wrong, or accidentally straddling any fuselage bulkhead joints.
Frontier jets had fairly bold, black outlines around the boarding doors and the overwing exits. I tried to use some from the Microscale 727 sheet, but true to form, they disintegrated on me. I might just use the not-so-bold overwing exit outlines found on the AA sheet.
Progress is being made on the right side, but i’ll hold off on the photos until the right side is closer to being done…
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