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I just saw this on the site of Aviation Megastore. Does anyone have more info on this?
https://www.aviationmegastore.com/modelling/douglas-dc8-30-swissair-x-planes-x144-001-189998.html
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Hi,
It’s a model kit supposed to be released by Eastern Express but because of the UKR/RUS conflict, the UKR toolmaker decided to keep the moulds and release that beauty under his (?) brand.
The boxart is splendid and the latest test-shot built-up model are impressive.
Cheers,
StefanThat’s an… interesting turn of events, to say the least. I will wait and see what happens!
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Is there a site we can go to in order to see the test shots?
Gene
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I saw somewhere (I believe on a Russian board) that EE is very upset about the UA tooler “stealing” their kit.
What’s good for the goose, as they say. Just think of all the leasing companies who’ve had their properties
actually stolen by Putin’s gang. Looking forward to seeing the final kit result, no matter who releases it.
Alan Aronoff
Where there's a will, there's a relative.I hope the kit will be as well-executed as that box art. Wow.
Jodie Peeler
"In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake." - Sayre's Law
Yes, previously discussed in the New Kits & Decals Forum. Although I am puzzled by the fact that the original EE kit was a -30 with KLM markings. Obviously, EE retained the decals art, so it makes sense for X-Planes to release it with a completely new set of decals for Swissair. Swissair flew several marks of DC-8 (-32/-55/-62).
K/R,
Dutch
Kind regards,
DutchThe EE website also had a DC8-50 in Delta markings in their future releases. Probably won’t be in Delta markings, but hope the -50 becomes a reality, as well as the previously discussed 707-120.
Gene
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Well, the box art is a heckuva improvement for sure. Wow!!
Fingers crossed that this kit will come to fruition.
david
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Well, the company is called X-Scale models, they have a page on Facebook and Ruslan Shilov is the man behind it.
He’s posting photos of the test shots on his personal Facebook page.
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Thank you so much for your response. We can only hope
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Well, the company is called X-Scale models, they have a page on Facebook and Ruslan Shilov is the man behind it.
He’s posting photos of the test shots on his personal Facebook page.
Aviation Megastore says that company name is “X-Planes” and you say “X-Scale.” Which is correct please? I don’t have FB, so cannot verify. I want to make a SCM entry. Is there a URL yet?
K/r,
Dutch
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DutchDutch,
It’s X-Scale Models according to their Facebook page.
Mike
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Dutch,
It’s X-Scale Models according to their Facebook page.
Mike
Right, Mike! Thanks, that is what I went with because I believe that there is already a company names X-Planes. Here is the SCM entry.
Kind regards,
Dutchso… some months have passed…
… 2023 is already here…
… Any news !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Luiz Claudio
X-Scale posts on Facebook it’s on sale now:
https://www.x-scalemodels.com/product/dc-8-32-swissair/
Marco
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This is how I was able to send my payment to xscale ????:
Hello.
Unfortunately our business PayPal account is now unavailable.You can try to pay via Paypal to this email vitaly.yastrub@gmail.com
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Did the payment go through successfully?
Gene
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It did go through securely on Paypal. I created an account with them which includes my email and password. I did receive confirmation from him on my order.
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There is a CGI image of a Trident on the X-Scale website as well. Hard to tell which variant. Looks like the short fuselage but hopefully we might see a Trident 3B from them in the future. The DC-8 looks nice and will cut out all that downsizing of the Minicraft model.
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There is a CGI image of a Trident on the X-Scale website as well. Hard to tell which variant. Looks like the short fuselage but hopefully we might see a Trident 3B from them in the future. The DC-8 looks nice and will cut out all that downsizing of the Minicraft model.
There is a perfectly good 1/144 Trident 3B available from F-RSIN with the choice of BA, BEA and CAAC liveries. It would be a bit of a waste for X-Scale to duplicate it.
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I’ve just found out that this DC-8 is available to purchase on EBay as well ✈️????
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Just a heads up. Got my credit card statement yesterday an found that PayPal had processed the payment as a cash advance, which incurred an additional $10 transaction fee.
Gene
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Nothing wrong with the F-rsin model of the Trident 3B at all. However if you prefer clear glazing for the cockpit windshield then that option is not available unless you can make your own.
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Just a heads up. Got my credit card statement yesterday an found that PayPal had processed the payment as a cash advance, which incurred an additional $10 transaction fee.
Gene
Gene,
I ordered a few Zvezda 757s last year from an outfit in Poland or Ukraine, can’t remember which, but they processed my Paypal payment the same way, as a cash advance. The price was too good to be true, so I ordered two kits. I never received my kits, but hopefully you do get yours as you are dealing with the outfit itself. I will order my X-Scale DC-8s through Hannants, they are only $1 more from them.
Kind regards,
Dutch
Kind regards,
DutchKit arrived today, 3 weeks from the date it was shipped, ordered directly from X-Scale. Kit was VERY well packaged.
The kit itself is beautiful and everything I hoped it would be.
Gene
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I also received my 2 kits from Vitaly. After reading the post here I was concerned that I was being scammed but I was wrong and the kits arrived a few days ago. So I opened the package and was pleasantly surprised to see how well the kits were packaged for shipment. The kit boxes are prestine which is a credit to Vitaly, he must be a modeler because he took serious care in just the shipping. So then I opened the kits themselves and there was also packaging so the contents remained intact. As for the models themselves, I wish I had this kit when I made the Braniff International diorama and the national airlines/northeast airlines 1962 dioramas. This is a kit that is very nicely laid out. There are no location pins for the assembly of the model. But it appears very accurate and in my view a nice alternative to cutting up a minicraft kit with after market engines. The quality of the engineering it evident here with a kit that is buildable. I am planning to order 2 more from the same source as clearly Vitaly is honorable. I plan on using this kit on my next diorama which is the National Airlines maintenance base at Miami international circa 1962 to 1967.
Regards to all
Jaime Diaz
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My 2 arrived yesterday. They were carefully packaged and arrived in good shape.
-d-
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Today I received my two DC-8-32 by X scale. Indeed they were packed carefully and arrived in excellent shape. I can’t wait to start building this beauty because its the most accurate DC-8 kit I’ve ever seen. Minicraft got the nose and cockpit shape completely wrong.
KBUR
Ray
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I did a test fit last night of the fuselage halves; taped them together straight out of the box, and although there are no locating pins, the fit was very good. Just some light sanding on the back end of the cockpit piece also yielded a good fit.
Gene
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I started to test fit my X-Scale DC-8-32 yesterday so everything seemed good except for the pressurization scoops which needs some work to make them look more accurate. Once you glue those pieces to the nose the opening through it is very small.
KBUR
Ray
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A friend of mine believes there’s a mistake in the instructions- the overwing fairings for the engines on the left wing- Parts G27 and G31- may be transposed and need to be swapped over.
Don’t mean this as a slam against the kit, but just to re-enforce what we all know- test fit carefully before committing anything to glue.
Aside from that, i’m pretty happy going from what i see on the sprues. However, i need to finish my 720B, first.
-d-
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Engine pylon #2 and #3 have big gaps underneath them and doesn’t line up with the upper portion of wing pylons. The build process is the same like any other Eastern Express models. I would like to hear from our friend Jeff.
KBUR
Ray
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in any way related to the comment i posted this morning?
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Haven’t gotten round to the pylons yet, but i was forewarned about them by Liam Williams. The rest of the kit components go together much like what i experienced with the EE Trident and Convair 990. No real surprises.
-d-
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Greetings!
I did not order any of these from the source in the Ukraine because of the PayPal payment confusion, but Hannants showed them in stock yesterday, so I placed a small order (I can hear retired Captain Chernoff laughing 1800 miles away!) which should be here within a week. I am looking forward to holding it in my hot little hands, but I have also seen an enlarged photo of the sprues and was able to see that the kit has 2 types of ejector assemblies. One is for showing them retracted (forward) and the other is for extended (rearward) as you would see them most often on the ground. Although the pieces look very good, the proof is in how well the pieces make up into a DC-8-30 series, fit and shape wise of course. If things fit well and dimensions check out well, then I think we’ll have a winner. BTW, I’m not the only person here who walked around photographing the DC-8 and flew them too, so my voice is not the only one that should comment on this kit…
The next version planned for release I see is a Delta DC-8-33 (yes, -33) which could be correct because Delta bought 7 DC-8-33 airplanes from Pan American in the late ’60’s, but I hope they are still planning to release the -50 series as well.
After I get my order from Hannants, I’ll possibly have more to say, but I urge others to speak up if you have the kit already, especially if you find any issues with the pylons or engine/pylon fit issues.
Looking forward to seeing many of you at the Airliners 2023 Convention in Dallas, hopefully with a few of these as well as the 880 and 990 in the model contest.
Best regards,
Jeff Jarvis
God's "Curse" to aviation!
I don’t have terribly much to add to my earlier postings, but I’ve been swapping messages with Liam about the kit. He says the issues with the upper pylon inserts is not a big deal. They may require a little bit of sanding on the mating surfaces to lower them a bit and help them sit flush, but that’s it. Obviously i will go very, very slowly as i add the inserts to ensure i don’t get them in the wrong places. For me, as long as the engine pylons come up to meet the over-wing inserts in the right place that’s all that matters.
I’ve test fitted the fuselage halves and the wings, and the wing -fuselage joint. Much like the Convairs, the things to watch out for are some of the 90 degree and rebate joints concerning the wing-fuselage joints. They are a tight fit and will need some remedial sanding to increase the clearances here and there. No issues with short-shots, or warped parts.
So far, i’m still liking this kit. The packaging is so much better than the joke the EE kits came in, and the shipping costs are much more reasonable. I wish these guys lots of success. Wonder when the Trident will be out…?
-d-
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Received my DC-8 kit. They have truly accurately captured the shape overall… the nose is better then any other styrene kit that I’ve seen…
I’ve been test fitting parts. Some areas require a little light sanding for a flush fit; over wing upper engine pylon fairing sections for example . I’ve also noticed that on the sprue, containing the clear cockpit windows section, there are two very small anti collision lights that almost went unnoticed. No mention is given of their placement in the instruction sheet. They are marked as 1 and 2 on the clear sprue.
Overall, extremely pleased with this beautiful kit so far
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Hi Mark, clear parts H1 and H2 are nose gear landing lights; check the instruction for nose gear assembly.
Gene
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If any fellow Brits are reading this Hannants now have the kit in stock. £35.99 plus postage.
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Greetings!
Although I am waiting for my order to get here from Hannants, I might advise you all to look carefully at your kit wings when fitting the pylon inserts onto the wings. It was mentioned that the instructions might have transposed part numbers.
Check the curve inward that the pylon wrapover makes on the top of the wing and note that it curves inward as it trails back, and then check the thickness of the pylon insert. The inboard part of the wing has a deeper curve on the bottom because the wing is much thicker on that section (a “Deep chest” look) and the outboard wing is thinner and flat on the bottom. This could be why things do not appear to line up properly.
Another thing that comes to mind is that the pylons under the wing have some funky shapes/angles to them because the ejector rails have to extend straight back from the tailpipe and the pylons curve inward towards the trailing edge, so the bottom of the pylon has an outward flare to it, and this is more pronounced on #2 and #3 than on #1 and #4 because the inboard pylons are closer to the wing underside than the outboards are. It’s too hard to describe, so photos are the only way to make sense of it. I’m fairly sure this kit does not depict it, but hopefully I am wrong.
As far as the slots go, both the inboard and outboard slots butt right up against the pylon on the inboard side, and the outboard slots (#1 and #4) are longer in span than are the inboard inboards slots. There are plenty of photos showing them on the internet. Just google “DC-8 wing slots” and “DC-8 engine ejectors” and see what comes up.
I sure hope I have not gotten you all confused… If I have, just throw rocks at me in Dallas!
Best regards,
Jeff Jarvis
God's "Curse" to aviation!
After reading Jeff’s post and going back to look at the kit, looks like the pylon wing wrapover curves outward. Does the same on the Revell kit.
Gene
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Greetings!
Gene, I think you misunderstood what I meant. The inboard curvature of the pylon wrapover is right at the leading edge of the wing and then the curvature of the wing top makes it appear to curve outward as it tapers rearward, although not having walked on the early DC-8 wing, I really do not know how the wrapover tapers to the rear. It may very well have a slight outward curve to it. It’s virtually impossible to tell from the passenger cabin. Looking at photos from the ground, you can see the inboard curvature near the wing leading edge, and while the DC-8-43 had the 4% leading edge, no series 21, 31, 32, 33, 41 or 42 did. They all had the earlier blunt leading edge.
My kits arrived Monday afternoon, more on that later.
Best regards,
Jeff Jarvis
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