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Wasn’t it a damn long waiting?
Design is finished, tool going into production. We expect the -100 kit to be released in late summer/early autumn, as usual in a standard and PRO edition.
We really spent a lot of time in research and design improvements in order to make the best 727-100 kit.
We listened to you and made so many changes that we decided to create a complete new tooling for the 727-100.
The kit will come to you with screen printed decals (including windows for the Combi version, in accordance with the optional 2nd window stripe), masks, detailed and improved instructions, PE parts and a beautiful & stable boxing.
Before you can see the first screenshots, have a look what we changed for a smoother modelling experience:
Kit design revision list
– All Fit issues removed
– LH window stripe now single piece
– LH window stripe 2nd option included for Combo version
– Step transition lower wing+upper wing half improved
– New wing root landing light design for easier assembly
– New lower wing+WBF design, panel lines for body gear doors added
– Gap upper wing->fuselage eliminated with new design
– Wing trailing edge details added
– Alignment of wing main gear doors now straight and on axis
– Slot added for placement of wing fence
– Flap track panel lines added
– Panel line cabin door flap upper side addedWell,…and for those who think the only different thing apart from the length is the center engine inlet… there is a bit more…check this:
727-100 design difference list
– oval center engine inlet
– pack outlet alignment and design
– early tail skid
– smaller main wheels
– early gear stiffener plate design
– 2 antennas for military version
– different cargo door designThe screenshots are without panel lines (the kits of course has them). We hope, it is what you were looking for…
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Robert V. Leonard
Sini..are you considering any modifications/updates to the 727-200 kit? I’m working on one now and I must say it is a gem! Just a couple of small areas could do with improvement. But overall, it is eons ahead of any 727 kit that was ever on the market. Toll getant!
Alan Aronoff
Where there's a will, there's a relative.Sini..are you considering any modifications/updates to the 727-200 kit? I’m working on one now and I must say it is a gem! Just a couple of small areas could do with improvement. But overall, it is eons ahead of any 727 kit that was ever on the market. Toll getant!
Hi Alan,
we would do that, if the demand was higher, but as for now the old tooling still delivers many shots. If they are sold out and the need for more 727s is there, that is an option, but i dont see it to be honest, at least not in the near future. And i guess you mainly talk about fit issues etc…. regarding the shape we had no complaints. Some modifications were done by our selfs without any feedback.
We tried to learn from all mistakes and take everything down to the -100.
I finished one my self, gonna post it here very soon.
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www.cr-models.comYou know, on the actual plane, the upper anti-collision light and the upper VHF antenna are offset from the fuselage centerline. This was to prevent any ice accumulation from going to the center engine intake.
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You know, on the actual plane, the upper anti-collision light and the upper VHF antenna are offset from the fuselage centerline. This was to prevent any ice accumulation from going to the center engine intake.
We know, that is why it is written in the instruction manual as a note (step 30).
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www.cr-models.comThis is happy, happy news. Thank you for the update. Can’t wait!
Jodie Peeler
"In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake." - Sayre's Law
1) WOWW!!!
What welcome news!
2) Just as i was beginning to make progress again on my Prehistoric Revell 727 project. Good thing i have only *one* of those on my Shelf of Doom.
3) Will the kit also offer the clear tailcone option with the position light?
Mee Likee.
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This is awesome news! CAD drawings look spot-on!! On the difference list you mentioned “early gear stiffener plate design”. Do you mean the bulges on the inside of the innermost flaptrack fairings?
I ask because there’s also a small but noticeable bump on the outside near the leading edge of said flaptracks as shown in these pics: https://www.britmodeller.com/walkarounds/airliners/B727-200/200%2045a.jpg https://airlinercafe.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/727-100-20-walkaround-photo.jpg that are missing from your CAD drawings. Or is it a case of these being lower resolution pics and you’re working on more detailed drawings that have the bump?
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Posts: 0I would buy several of these kits as center or focal pieces for my dioramas. The Revell and airfix kits since I have them would be filler models. Great job Sini and Oli.
Jaime Diaz
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Congratulations on the new designs! I greatly appreciate your effort and taking us a leap forward with the 727-100 CRM!! Will buy many.
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1) WOWW!!!
What welcome news!
2) Just as i was beginning to make progress again on my Prehistoric Revell 727 project. Good thing i have only *one* of those on my Shelf of Doom.
3) Will the kit also offer the clear tailcone option with the position light?
Mee Likee.
3) yes, it will have both options – clear tailcone and HF antenna
This is awesome news! CAD drawings look spot-on!! On the difference list you mentioned “early gear stiffener plate design”. Do you mean the bulges on the inside of the innermost flaptrack fairings?
I ask because there’s also a small but noticeable bump on the outside near the leading edge of said flaptracks as shown in these pics: https://www.britmodeller.com/walkarounds/airliners/B727-200/200%2045a.jpg https://airlinercafe.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/727-100-20-walkaround-photo.jpg that are missing from your CAD drawings. Or is it a case of these being lower resolution pics and you’re working on more detailed drawings that have the bump?
exactly, they are different to those of the -200
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www.cr-models.comI can’t wait for this to be out. One of my all-time favorite aircraft.
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ahmed
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When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace becomes a circus.This is awesome news! CAD drawings look spot-on!! On the difference list you mentioned “early gear stiffener plate design”. Do you mean the bulges on the inside of the innermost flaptrack fairings?
I ask because there’s also a small but noticeable bump on the outside near the leading edge of said flaptracks as shown in these pics: https://www.britmodeller.com/walkarounds/airliners/B727-200/200%2045a.jpg https://airlinercafe.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/727-100-20-walkaround-photo.jpg that are missing from your CAD drawings. Or is it a case of these being lower resolution pics and you’re working on more detailed drawings that have the bump?
regarding the bumps on the FTFs, it was decided not to model them due to their size in 1/144 scale and resulting issues with the molding (possible sinkmarks).
I can’t wait for this to be out. One of my all-time favorite aircraft.
glad to hear that 🙂
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www.cr-models.comThis is awesome news! CAD drawings look spot-on!! On the difference list you mentioned “early gear stiffener plate design”. Do you mean the bulges on the inside of the innermost flaptrack fairings?
I ask because there’s also a small but noticeable bump on the outside near the leading edge of said flaptracks as shown in these pics: https://www.britmodeller.com/walkarounds/airliners/B727-200/200%2045a.jpg https://airlinercafe.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/727-100-20-walkaround-photo.jpg that are missing from your CAD drawings. Or is it a case of these being lower resolution pics and you’re working on more detailed drawings that have the bump?
regarding the bumps on the FTFs, it was decided not to model them due to their size in 1/144 scale and resulting issues with the molding (possible sinkmarks).
Fair enough, there’s only so much detail that’s practical to add in that scale! For instance, I can add such bumps myself on a build, but I’d personally draw the line with static wicks or adding every single hydraulic line on landing gear!
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I can’t see the CAD renderings, so forgive me if this question was already asked.
Will the -100 include the option for early-style clamsell type thrust reversers?
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I can’t see the CAD renderings, so forgive me if this question was already asked.
Will the -100 include the option for early-style clamsell type thrust reversers?
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-d-
the clamshell reversers will be available only in the PRO edition and as a seperate aftermarket resin part. though i think it not too hard to modify with grill and make a clamshell out of it…
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www.cr-models.comI hope the tariff fights end soon, would really like one of these kits when they are ready.
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I hope the tariff fights end soon, would really like one of these kits when they are ready.
we hope so too, but at least shipping to the US is possible again.
Oh, okay. I had emailed a while back asking and you weren’t shipping then. Glad to hear, guys I need to check out the website and do an order. Thanks
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I’m so excited to possibly be able to purchase from my friends in Europe, Canada, and Mexico!
Now, all I need is a paycheck. So happy to go to work, not get paid, and have the reassurance that I will get paid. So, after I get a paycheck, pay overdue, or deferred bills, get groceries, and feel better… I’ll catch up a month or so later, and be able to buy some stuff I need, some stuff I want, and become a great American consumer again! If, in the meantime this 727 kit is released, can I reserve a few pro editions with my good name and degrading credit?
I don’t always say “Proceed as requested”
But when I do, it is because I have no clue what you just said.The kit isn’t out yet, right? Not yet listed at your webpage. Which livery will be released? Hopefully Pan Am…. 😛 😛 😛 😉
Because the Pan Am 727-100 was my very first airliner kit at the age of 9. Was a Plasticart 100 scale kit of course. Was a birthday present from my dad he built. That’s why I Pan Am’s 727 is my favour at all and have a live long relationship.
Definately a classic!
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The kit isn’t out yet, right? Not yet listed at your webpage. Which livery will be released? Hopefully Pan Am…. 😛 😛 😛 😉
Because the Pan Am 727-100 was my very first airliner kit at the age of 9. Was a Plasticart 100 scale kit of course. Was a birthday present from my dad he built. That’s why I Pan Am’s 727 is my favour at all and have a live long relationship.
Definately a classic!we have all the plastic already and the testbuild exceeded the 722, so the kit will be great, i’d say. we just have to sort some administration issues at the moment.
livery will be USAF, but for sure 26 will offer panam markings.
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www.cr-models.comlooking forward to this one but curious, why bother designing/printing/including USAF decals that less than 1pct of buyers will actually use? There was one C-22 and the scheme is really plain and boring.
Might as well release it without decals and pass the savings on. Am sure most of us will use aftermarket decals to our liking.
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I’m nitpicking but I think the USAF markings are interesting. I started another thread asking for info on the C-22 planes.
Per Wikipedia it wasn’t just one C-22 but five total. LOL…… One was a C-22A and four were C-22B’s.
Picking markings for a kit must be a challenge for a manufacturer. I remember Clint Groves saying that he had the most aftermarket decals available for the Airfix 737 kit. I did a quick check/count and stopped at the AHS website after finding ~60 1/144 scale 727-100 decals.
Boeing C-22A
A single 727-30 acquired from the Federal Aviation Administration, this aircraft was originally delivered to Lufthansa. It served mostly with United States Southern Command flying from Panama City / Howard Air Force Base.
Boeing C-22B
Four 727-35 aircraft were acquired from National Airlines by the United States Air Force for transporting Air National Guard and National Guard personnel.
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looking forward to this one but curious, why bother designing/printing/including USAF decals that less than 1pct of buyers will actually use? There was one C-22 and the scheme is really plain and boring.
Might as well release it without decals and pass the savings on. Am sure most of us will use aftermarket decals to our liking.
In general most Modellers don’t build what comes with the kit, definetely agree on that. A few considerations for you on how we as a company have to make these decisions:
1. Military vs Civil sales = 10:1
2. Licensing an Airline (high costs) or not doing so and risking legal action (depending on what airline and how you promote it on your box)
3. Size of the decal sheet.
Why we chose the USAF marking? first all of the above, the one we chose is not the boring white one, but the typical military livery. We rather provide a lot of stencils on the decal sheet for you ISO large decals for a livery only 5 people will build, so you can use your 3rd party decals and use our beautiful and accurate stencils.
At the moment we plan to release two limited releases, first the USAF and later a proper airline.
This way we provide a full kit and still can give you nice decals for a 3rd party livery of your choice while at the same time we can keep the price for the kit as it used to be.
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www.cr-models.comSini & Ole,
I like it! In fact I love it! I will buy several! I don’t mind the military scheme and am very happy that you chose the white over grey scheme! Thank you!
Kind regards,
Dutch
Kind regards,
Dutchoh man, I wish the military scheme was this one:
Source of picture: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Boeing_727-100_%28RNZAF%29_91.jpg
But, I will be happy with whatever decal it comes with 🙂
George
AKL NZThere were/are a handful of military 727 schemes out there. For this particular one I’m curious how the black radome and glare shield will get done. Some interesting curves to do.
Ken
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Is there any word on when these will be available?
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Perfect!
The B727-230 should be ready then.
🙂Cheers
Uwe
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This is going to be really nice and I’m really looking forward to this kit. Thanks to all of you involved in this project. It’s much-needed.
Jodie Peeler
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How is the release coming along?
I don’t always say “Proceed as requested”
But when I do, it is because I have no clue what you just said.I have not received any newsletters. I signed up for them when you guys switched servers, tried again a few months ago, and yet again last night. Last night, until now I have not even gotten the confirmation email. I have checked spam folder, done all the searching, nothing.
I don’t always say “Proceed as requested”
But when I do, it is because I have no clue what you just said.I have not received any newsletters. I signed up for them when you guys switched servers, tried again a few months ago, and yet again last night. Last night, until now I have not even gotten the confirmation email. I have checked spam folder, done all the searching, nothing.
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Tell me, am I doing something wrong here? Even with emails I send to CRM, I’m not sure if you receive them. Seriously, I love your products, enthusiastically support you (when tariffs allow), and want to buy more than my wife allows. Am I the only person that has had problems with the newsletter?
I don’t always say “Proceed as requested”
But when I do, it is because I have no clue what you just said.I also have problems receiving the newsletter. I used to receive them regularly until the server change. I’ve tried reregistering a couple times with no luck so far.
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Thank you,
Tell me, am I doing something wrong here? Even with emails I send to CRM, I’m not sure if you receive them. Seriously, I love your products, enthusiastically support you (when tariffs allow), and want to buy more than my wife allows. Am I the only person that has had problems with the newsletter?
hm, really strange. Regarding the newsletter, you have to confirm your registration. The thing is, we don’t want to spam our customers… thats why we send one or two newsletters each year. All customer mails are normally being recieved and answered. I think we also had a conversation about the pro edition a while ago?
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Tell me, am I doing something wrong here? Even with emails I send to CRM, I’m not sure if you receive them. Seriously, I love your products, enthusiastically support you (when tariffs allow), and want to buy more than my wife allows. Am I the only person that has had problems with the newsletter?
hm, really strange. Regarding the newsletter, you have to confirm your registration. The thing is, we don’t want to spam our customers… thats why we send one or two newsletters each year. All customer mails are normally being recieved and answered. I think we also had a conversation about the pro edition a while ago?
We did have that conversation. In your email you asked a question. I sent a reply, not sure if you got that. I also sent an email with a product suggestion with pictures. No answer to that one, so not sure if it was received.
Still, no confirmation email from a few days ago registering. I’m going to try again right now.
I don’t always say “Proceed as requested”
But when I do, it is because I have no clue what you just said.I never got a confirmation from signing up to the Newsletter either. In fact last time you guys sent me a direct link to the pre-order sale for the 200.
I did not get the newsletter discussing the extra parts included with the Pro edition either
Would you mind explaining one more time what all is included in the PRO edition?
Nothing as incredible as a 727-100 in landing configuration with full flaps full reversers and spoilers deployed!
Such a sexy bird!
I’ll be buying lots of them!
Walter
IAH
Regards,
WalterThank you,
Tell me, am I doing something wrong here? Even with emails I send to CRM, I’m not sure if you receive them. Seriously, I love your products, enthusiastically support you (when tariffs allow), and want to buy more than my wife allows. Am I the only person that has had problems with the newsletter?
hm, really strange. Regarding the newsletter, you have to confirm your registration. The thing is, we don’t want to spam our customers… thats why we send one or two newsletters each year. All customer mails are normally being recieved and answered. I think we also had a conversation about the pro edition a while ago?
We did have that conversation. In your email you asked a question. I sent a reply, not sure if you got that. I also sent an email with a product suggestion with pictures. No answer to that one, so not sure if it was received.
Still, no confirmation email from a few days ago registering. I’m going to try again right now
So, since this post…. XXX number of hours ago, no confirmation email. I’m going to guess, it was the same with all of my previous attempts. I will say, earlier this year I signed up and didn’t pay attention. But for sure, this last week, I get nothing.
I don’t always say “Proceed as requested”
But when I do, it is because I have no clue what you just said.I signed up again a short while ago and immediately got the confirmation email.
Gene
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Gene,
Have you signed up before they switched? And this was your first try?
Maybe multiple sign ups upset the system?
I’m starting to think that my dreams are real, the internet and anyone using it hates me, AI included!
I’ll just go lay on a beach and watch the end.
I don’t always say “Proceed as requested”
But when I do, it is because I have no clue what you just said.Not sure when “the switch” occurred. I initially signed up shortly before the -200 kits were released, but after following this thread, decided to sign up again.
Gene
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Thank you,
Tell me, am I doing something wrong here? Even with emails I send to CRM, I’m not sure if you receive them. Seriously, I love your products, enthusiastically support you (when tariffs allow), and want to buy more than my wife allows. Am I the only person that has had problems with the newsletter?
hm, really strange. Regarding the newsletter, you have to confirm your registration. The thing is, we don’t want to spam our customers… thats why we send one or two newsletters each year. All customer mails are normally being recieved and answered. I think we also had a conversation about the pro edition a while ago?
We did have that conversation. In your email you asked a question. I sent a reply, not sure if you got that. I also sent an email with a product suggestion with pictures. No answer to that one, so not sure if it was received.
Still, no confirmation email from a few days ago registering. I’m going to try again right now.
Yes, i got your reply. The problem is, i dont have the time to answer to all requests and wishes. I am doing all customer supports alone and besides i have to go to work and besides that i have to design instructions, decals, boxings, plotting masks, renovating a house, and so on. Thats why some messages might be “filtered” and only the important ones get answered. It will get better soon but now its all a bit tight. Nevertheless nice Western 727.
regarding the news letter you get a confirmation email and you must press the better so to confirm you want to recieve the letter. thats EU law unfortunetly. It looks like there might have been an issue with your mail provider, all i can say is – in our system you are now registered. seems to have worked.
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