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I just found this on evilBay and decided to take a chance and buy it. I can use these on my 747-200 build. Here is the link to the gallery.
Does anyone know the item #? I would like to add this to the SCM database.
Kind regards,
DutchYes.
Clint Groves of ATP robbed plenty of Airfix A300 kits to provide this product.
That’s where he got em from.
Cheers,
Liam
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Hi Dutch,
I manufacture CF6-50 engines for 747-200
Sergey
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Sergey,
Without a doubt your engines are beautiful. I have a curious question or two about the Revell and Airfix engines. I’ve looked at the Revell engines before and thought “hmmm… They don’t look so good”. How do the Airfix engines look? Similar or significantly better than the Revell ones? Could one also use the Druz engines for an Airfix A300?
Ken
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The Airfix engines (only PW) are pure junk. Some say the main cowlings were tooled with reversers deployed but I’m not sure, to me it looks just like a “oopsie, we goofed it” design.
The Revell engines (PW) are marginally better. They also tooled GE engines that are as bad as Airfix’s PW engines, no reversers deployed but the basic shapes are just not good.
Of course none will come close to Sergei’s beauties.
Cheers,
StefanIn regard to using the Airfix A300 1/144 GE CF-6 engines for the Revell 1/144 747s, they are a good alternative choice. The spinner is really the right size and cowling has the right shape and the engine intake lip. I made a 747-200 D-ABYP 1/144 which I was able to fly at least twice. That is essentially what Clint Groves was selling.
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Well pin a tail on me and call me a donkey! Here is a scan of step #7 from the Airfix A300. Exactly the same parts as Clint “re-packaged” under his own label as GE CF6 engines. Doh!
Yes Sergey, your engines are beautiful.
Kind regards,
DutchSergey,
Without a doubt your engines are beautiful. I have a curious question or two about the Revell and Airfix engines. I’ve looked at the Revell engines before and thought “hmmm… They don’t look so good”. How do the Airfix engines look? Similar or significantly better than the Revell ones? Could one also use the Druz engines for an Airfix A300?
Ken
Ken,
Sergey has the engines for the A300, no need to convert anything.
I don’t always say “Proceed as requested”
But when I do, it is because I have no clue what you just said.ATP engine idea what’s awesome back in the day. Having a different type engine for the Revell 747 was an innovation! I know there is more to the story of what happened to the rest of the plastic from the Airfix A-300 but I don’t remember it.
i do have some of those engine sets in my stash for nostalgic purposes only!
Regards,
WalterATP engine idea what’s awesome back in the day. Having a different type engine for the Revell 747 was an innovation! I know there is more to the story of what happened to the rest of the plastic from the Airfix A-300 but I don’t remember it.
i do have some of those engine sets in my stash for nostalgic purposes only!
Walter,
Yes, I think these will go into the “Museum” portion of my stash as what was possible back in the day! I remember Clint’s “How to build Vacuforms” VHS video and Dave Minton’s “Building Airliners” booklet from Kalmbach Publishing. They were the Bible back then.
Thanks to everyone for your comments and walk down memory lane on these engines.
K/r,
Dutch
Kind regards,
DutchClint was always one to “think outside the box” and to innovate.
He bought up a stock of surplus 1/144 Airfix A300 kits that I believe were otherwise going to be junked.
He took the engine components from the kits, repackaged them, and sold them in sets of four so that the modeller could improve their own 747 kits with more accurate GEs than the venerable, but basic, Revell offering allowed (the Revell kits having either PWs or GEs, according to issue).
At the same time he sold off the A300 decals from these kits (Eastern’s livery, as I recall) as a stand-alone item.
What to do with the rest of the plastic from the A300 kits ?
He (in his own words) “…..ground them up…” and used the plastic to produce his version of a fully injection moulded (UK spelling of molded) 1/144 Swearingen Metroliner. Dean Slaybaugh of Sasquatch Models in Oregon produced some of these Metroliners for Clint, marketed under the latter’s ATP / Airliners America banner.
Don
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Couple more Clint Groves ATP stories…..I believe there was a rush for the Metroliner kit to be available at the San Jose Airliners convention. Clint advertised the kit but it was a RUSH to have it at the show. The VHS building vacuform models tape is a classic. Did anyone ever buy the small bottles of Future that he re -packaged and advertised?
Ken
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Somewhere in a box of artifacts and curios I have one of the ATP Metroliner kits with Southern Airways decals, probably found in one of the cabinets behind the counter at Orange Blossom Hobbies. It’s a very simple kit and the plastic looks just a little murky, as you’d expect from the background story. If you wanted a Metroliner, though, that’s what you did. I was briefly tempted to build it, but never had the heart to disturb it.
There are stories out there about people getting unexpected extras, bonus scenes, etc. in copies of the vacuform “how-to” tape. I’ve never seen for myself, but not a whole lot would surprise me. Clint Groves was a character, legendarily so. I can never think of him without laughing at least a little.
Jodie Peeler
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