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November 29, 2023 at 6:54 pm #244531Can anyone tell me a few things:1. (In the olden days) it was possible to see a route map of an airline on their time table or (later) just by looking up the airline web site. Now, it seems the web site only gives out their cheapest flights and asks you when and where you want go on their route that includes this stop. What single map can you see of their air routes (they go to) look like?2. What kind of load factors do these minor brand carriers (Air Viet-Nam, Finnair, Austrian ,Turkish Airlines, etc) that fly into the USA have? And how many flights a week do they do it? Back in the 50’s Pan Am (prop liners) would only go (East of NYC) to Chicago 3 times a week with a mid stop at Detroit on those flights.3. How can any of these airlines afford large Airbus or Boeing jets without a yearly partial government support?4. How many of you think this cooking oil fuel is going to make flying anywhere cheaper in the future, any more than using electric cars will make local driving cheaper than gasoline? How many cars are cheaper now with electric windows, air conditioning, electric seat positioning than before without them.
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December 1, 2023 at 4:54 pm #244533Hi Mate,
Here are a few of my thoughts on your questions.
- Route Maps – The only place I’ve seen route maps in recent years is in the inflight magazines you find on board. There is a website that has route maps of many airlines –https://www.airlineroutemaps.com/
- Load factors – here in the UK the UK Civil Aviation Authority publishes data on airline load factors by route from UK airports – this will give you some idea of load factors of smaller airlines https://www.caa.co.uk/data-and-analysis/uk-aviation-market/airports/uk-airport-load-factor-data/
- Wide body affordability – airline economics is a science itself. But if an airline reckons it can carry enough passengers on a route so that it will be able to generate a solid revenue stream, then against this they can either lease a widebody or even borrow money to buy one outright. Government subsidy is not allowed under international competition laws.
- Cooking oil fuel – I think you are referring to ‘sustainable aviation fuel’ or SAF. SAF is not a cost saving – it roughly costs the same a normal aviation fuel. SAF is about reducing aviation’s impact on the environment by being a low carbon energy fuel.
I’m sure others here can give you better answers – but hope this helps a bit.
Cheers
Tim
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December 7, 2023 at 5:08 pm #244562Thank Timo55
It was what I looking for exactly. The #1 was primary the rest became after thoughts while thinking about #1
So again thanks
Electroglider
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