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      Post #79766, posted on 01-06-2022 GMT-5 hours    
      Hello friends,

      I hope one of you can help me on that, specially Jennings. I'm trying to establish which 727-173 did the last flight from Da Nang, if the N691WA or N693WA. I have an old e-mail from a guy in US saying that it was the N691WA and one picture from the old book "The Boeing 727 Scrapbook" shows what looks like the N691WA (see the image attached). But, there are some who says the one who landed was the N693WA. I think the picture nails it, but I would like to confirm.



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      Post #79767, posted on 01-06-2022 GMT-5 hours    
      "Boeing 727: Triumph In The Skies" by our own Capt. Dan Dornseif states the aircraft was N693WA, and the book includes a color profile of this aircraft by Jennings Heilig.

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      Post #79768, posted on 01-06-2022 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks, Jodie, I saw that. Don't have the book, but a friend of mine sent me this info too. This is another reason why I want to confirm. The image seems to show that was the other aircraft. Just want to be sure. Regards from Brazil
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      Post #79800, posted on 01-10-2022 GMT-5 hours    
      Hello Sergio and Jodie,

      Mea Culpa!

      Thanks for pointing this out. Looking at the photo, it appears that you are indeed correct. The aircraft involved does appear to be N691WA despite the data I had.

      Further, here is a link to a Seattle Times article which supports this- although it also says that Daly was the pilot flying the plane (it was Healy)...so, take it with a grain of salt. I will keep trying to find more information.

      https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19940227&slug=1897392

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      Post #79802, posted on 01-10-2022 GMT-5 hours    
      Gentlemen,

      First, thanks Dan, what we all want is to be as true as we can, but since this kind of information is so old and unreliable, that isn't always possible. Never saw this article you linked before, but I just received a contribution from Marcelo Magalhaes (thanks again), prints from the "Aviation Letter" #102, from Bo Lundkvist, printed on May 1975 and on it  was also stated that this flight was operated by the 727-173C N691WA. So now, there are two evidences of the real identity of this jet, besides this article Dan has found. That settles it.





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      Post #79804, posted on 01-10-2022 GMT-5 hours    
      UPI photo that ran the following day, alongside a harrowing account of what it was like on board. It was indeed 691.



      Dan, I know all too well what it's like to get something in print, only to find out you missed it on something. I've done it all too often. When we meet, the beverages are on me.

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      Post #79805, posted on 01-10-2022 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks Jodie! I'll take you up on that!

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      Post #79806, posted on 01-10-2022 GMT-5 hours    
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      UPI photo that ran the following day, alongside a harrowing account of what it was like on board. It was indeed 691.



      Dan, I know all too well what it's like to get something in print, only to find out you missed it on something. I've done it all too often. When we meet, the beverages are on me.

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      Jodie, thanks for the image. The second arrow on the main landing gear is really a foot of someone, as I was told many years ago?
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      Post #79807, posted on 01-10-2022 GMT-5 hours    
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      Jodie, thanks for the image. The second arrow on the main landing gear is really a foot of someone, as I was told many years ago?



      That would not surprise me. When I did a search through newspapers.com (which is where the above photo came from) I found a UPI wirephoto of a body being removed from the gear well. (Not going to post it here, obviously. It's not an explicit photo, but it would be in poor taste.)

      I did find this photo of the grenade damage to the port wing:



      The 727 was built like a tank.

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      Post #79809, posted on 01-11-2022 GMT-5 hours    
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      Yeah, really like a tank. TWA 841 was another example...
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      Post #79818, posted on 01-12-2022 GMT-5 hours    
      Don't know if this helps you out or not, but thought this was an interesting clip pertaining to the event that your model subject took part in.

      https://youtu.be/0pKdXEw4d_A

      In relation to recent news, it's difficult to tell if this was South Vietnam or Afghanistan.

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      Post #79822, posted on 01-12-2022 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks, I saw this video, but it doesn't show the registration. But it's very informative and it was from the last day, the same one N691WA performed that flight.