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      Post #79017, posted on 09-25-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Hello,

      A hobby shop I discovered a few months ago started stocking a surprisingly big quantity of Nitto 1:100 DC-9-41 kits.

      After checking online, it looks better than their DC-8 kit (the nose is better rendered IMHO) but is it as good as their 747-100 kit ?

      I was so excited I ordered 6 pieces, will be delivered Monday.

      1st one will probably turn into a DC-9-15 Saudia.

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      Post #79018, posted on 09-26-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Is this the one with Hawaiian markings? If so I have one in the stash I think the cockpit windows don't have the eyebrows molded but I would have to check. Other than that seems to be a pretty decent kit

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      Post #79019, posted on 09-26-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      It's this boxing, the original one.

      [photoid=27608q]

      Edit : photo may appear later, still not yet approved. It's the TDA Toa Domestic Airlines release.

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      Post #79020, posted on 09-26-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      I think it's a good kit!
      Converted it to a -30 series in KLM livery.

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      Post #79022, posted on 09-26-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      It's okay, but not their best. It's been years since I've owned one. I seem to recall it lacks the eyebrow windows.

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      Post #79028, posted on 09-27-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Thank you all for your replies !

      My kits came in this morning, I am very pleased with these and at CHF 4.00 or USD 4.30 a pop, they are certainly quite a deal.

      I will post photos this week.

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      Post #79039, posted on 09-28-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Greetings!

      It is indeed missing the eyebrow windows, but the outlines of them are molded solid and could be opened up if you wanted to.

      I think the wings look pretty good for the slatted winged DC-9 variants, but the cabin window spacing is a little funky, so you need to check it carefully.

      For a DC-9-30 series (the kit is supposedly a -41, more or less) there are 13 windows to the rear of the rearmost exit window, and 21 in front of the forward exit window. Of course, it is common for various numbers of forward windows to be plugged for coat closets, etc.

      Basically, it looks like a DC-9 and makes into a fine model if you do some careful research before cutting and/or plugging. Scandinavian and Toa Domestic are the only customers for the DC-9-41, and the kit definitely looks longer than a -30 which most airlines bought, but Ozark and Northwest/Republic bought some used -41 airplanes to add to their fleets. Note that the -41 did not have strakes on the forward fuselage as the -51 and Super 80 did.

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      Post #79046, posted on 09-28-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      One thought: The diameter/window pitch (in decal form at least) proportions on this kit are quite close to those of a 1:144 767; I used an old LU SAS sheet to build one of these as a -21 (color scheme only, the windows of course weren‘t the 67s…) about 20-odd years ago. Alas it was lost & no pics exist, but the belly stripes were nearly perfect & the titles were as well. YMMV, but worth thinking of if you want some scheme options, as I’m sure other sheets would work too.

      Oh, and if you modify the kit, don’t forget to properly adjust the reverser fairings on the engines. Taka a look at photos of real birds & you’ll see what I mean..

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      Post #79051, posted on 09-29-2021 GMT-5 hours    
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      Oh, and if you modify the kit, don’t forget to properly adjust the reverser fairings on the engines. Taka a look at photos of real birds & you’ll see what I mean..



      Greetings!

      Speaking of reverser actuator fairings... It would behoove you to do as advised above by RAA188 regarding looking at specific photos of the aircraft you are building your model to represent, because there are no absolutes on the reverser configuration vis-a-vis the 17 degree cant or straight up and down. Air Canada devised the 17 degree cant as a way of reducing FOD and compressor stalling when reversing hard and the reverser throwing up ice, snow, rocks, etc. and the ingesting of those plus reingesting of exhaust gases causing compressor stalling. The 17 degree cant threw the reverse thrust on the bottom out to the side thus reducing the possibility of ingestion of displaced FOD or exhaust gases.

      Douglas liked it so much that they introduced it on the DC-9 factory assembly line and all subsequent DC-9-30, -40 and all -50 aircraft were built with the feature, however, they did not all stay configured that way. Northwest changed all of the reversers on their DC-9 fleet to straight up and down, but I do not know how long after the Republic merger it was done. I discovered it one day when I glanced out the terminal window in MSP and did a double take! After that, I looked at every DC-9-50 of theirs and they all had been changed to eliminate the 17 degree cant. I believe that Delta kept them that way on the DC-9-50 fleet which they continued to operate for some time after their merger. There may be others as well, so you have to check to be sure. I guess it is also possible that Republic started changing them before the merger, but I do not know.

      More semi-useless trivia from my cesspool of it! That, and several $$$ will get you a cafe latte grande at Starbucks!! Y'all have fun now...

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      Post #79052, posted on 09-29-2021 GMT-5 hours    
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      Jeff Jarvis :
      Speaking of reverser actuator fairings... It would behoove you to do as advised above by RAA188 regarding looking at specific photos of the aircraft you are building your model to represent, because there are no absolutes on the reverser configuration vis-a-vis the 17 degree cant or straight up and down.



      ...and in David Hingtgen's DC-9/MD-80 guide on this very website, about a quarter of the way down the page you will find a rear view of a Northwest DC-9 with one canted reverser and one straight reverser! As experience has taught me, anything can happen, and frequently does.

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