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      Post #78899, posted on 09-04-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Just wondering why none of the current model kit mfgrs have seen fit to grace us with a decent Boeing or Martin clipper flying boat. Although not produced in any significant numbers, these aircraft were pioneers in developing world air travel. I have been fiddling with the Minicraft and Airfix iterations of the Boeing ship and the Strombecker/Glencoe Martin M-130 for many builds so it would be nice to have one of the mainline guys produce a modern tech kit. A Roden or Eduard niche release would be really welcome .. both companies have produced kits of some fairly obscure A/C so it wouldn't seem to be much of a stretch for one of them to do these.

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      Post #78901, posted on 09-05-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      It's all about the $$$ return on the development and tooling investment. These would be large kits with few potential buyers, necessitating very high retail prices. While I'd love to see accurate kits of these planes, I doubt I ever will. I recently bought the Bat Project 1/72 issue of the Boeing Stratoliner, which put me back over $100. Just imagine what a B-314 kit in that scale would go for!

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      Post #78902, posted on 09-05-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      I also like flying boats and struggled to find a Boeing 314 to add to my historic Pan Am collection, but eventually found an old Airfix 144 kit made in 1976 on eBay.

      Although the bag is sealed and all looks intact, the decals look extremely fragile and may disintegrate in water and itís such a rare item I doubt Iíll find aftermarket decals to replace them.

      It seems like any flying boat kits out there are likely to be very old, apart from PBY Catalinas. I recently bought a 72 scale Revell Catalina for @$30 after reading some very good reviews so this might be the exception.

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      Post #78903, posted on 09-05-2021 GMT-5 hours    
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      I also like flying boats and struggled to find a Boeing 314 to add to my historic Pan Am collection, but eventually found an old Airfix 144 kit made in 1976 on eBay.

      Although the bag is sealed and all looks intact, the decals look extremely fragile and may disintegrate in water and itís such a rare item I doubt Iíll find aftermarket decals to replace them.

      It seems like any flying boat kits out there are likely to be very old, apart from PBY Catalinas. I recently bought a 72 scale Revell Catalina for @$30 after reading some very good reviews so this might be the exception.




      The Academy Catalina series is well done also.

      Minicraft did a reshoot of the Airfix B314 in 2005 which includes a beautiful decal sheet just like the original and can be found from time to time on Ebay. I bought mine for $30.00 recently.

      Also the old Strombecker Martin M130 was redone by Glencoe and has been available but not recently.

      I keep hunting !!

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      Post #78904, posted on 09-05-2021 GMT-5 hours    
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      It's all about the $$$ return on the development and tooling investment. These would be large kits with few potential buyers, necessitating very high retail prices. While I'd love to see accurate kits of these planes, I doubt I ever will. I recently bought the Bat Project 1/72 issue of the Boeing Stratoliner, which put me back over $100. Just imagine what a B-314 kit in that scale would go for!



      Even a 1/144 scale would be acceptable. But you are spot on about the costs involved vs limited sales potential........ But then the Italeri/Testors GIGANT comes to mind.

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      Post #78905, posted on 09-05-2021 GMT-5 hours    
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      Minicraft did a reshoot of the Airfix B314 in 2005 which includes a beautiful decal sheet just like the original and can be found from time to time on Ebay. I bought mine for $30.00 recently.




      Thanks for making me aware. Had a quick look on eBay but only found another Airfix kit for £44.50 / $58, so theyíre hard to find and fairly expensive when found.

      Iím sure this would be an anathema to Cafe members but my eBay search also listed a 100 scale hand-made wooden model of a 314 clipper, which is actually really nice if you were in the market for a bookshelf ornament and a clipper fan:

      https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAN-AM-AIRWAYS-Boeing-Clipper-314-Large-Travel-Agent-Style-Model-1-100-Scale-/393415959268?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

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      Post #78908, posted on 09-05-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      For anyone interested, I found this excellent article on the B314 kit and includes a brief but interesting history of this iconic aircraft.

      It has detailed build instructions with nice photos and it also states that the Airfix kit (and Minicraft re-badged version of it) is the only kit available of the 314.

      https://hangar47.com/boeing-model-314-clipper/

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      Post #78910, posted on 09-05-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Greetings!

      You might try to see if you could get a few from Atlantic Models in Miami. When Helio Belisario owned Atlantic they had several of the Sikorsky S boats in Pan American markings as well as the Martin M-130 and the Boeing 314, all in 1/72 scale, and he sold them in kit form for half the price of the finished model.

      If they are still trading that might be your only hope... Perhaps someone who knows the owner (Mr. Jarman?) might chime in on this.

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      Post #78911, posted on 09-06-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks for the reference Jeff.

      I located the website - https://atlantic-models.com/

      They seem to focus on custom-made resin models within a $400-650 price tag. I didnít see any reference to kits although that could be my browser (DuckDuckGo) which sometimes prevents pages from rendering properly as it blocks all cookies.

      Itís a really interesting looking store however and the quality of the models is no doubt excellent. It seems like theyíll make any model to order with specific reg numbers etc.

      Iíd pay them a visit if Iím ever back in Florida (or the US for that matter, given the prevailing situation).

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      Post #78912, posted on 09-06-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi,
      Have you looked at the Anigrand website,they have a number of flying boat resin kits which I have purchased.Havent got round to making any of them yet but they look good.

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      Post #78916, posted on 09-06-2021 GMT-5 hours    
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      Hi,
      Have you looked at the Anigrand website,they have a number of flying boat resin kits which I have purchased.Havent got round to making any of them yet but they look good.

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      Thanks, Mark. I have never attempted a resin kit, but the Anigrand Sikorsky XPB1 looks tempting !

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      Post #78917, posted on 09-06-2021 GMT-5 hours    
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      For anyone interested, I found this excellent article on the B314 kit and includes a brief but interesting history of this iconic aircraft.

      It has detailed build instructions with nice photos and it also states that the Airfix kit (and Minicraft re-badged version of it) is the only kit available of the 314.

      https://hangar47.com/boeing-model-314-clipper/




      Nice article and review....
      Yes the old Airfix molds have held up well for this Minicraft kit. As far as the kit's lack of American flag decals, My example came with a very nice Scalecraft decal sheet which included flags for all four locations. Possibly the kit used for the review was an early ( or later) release.

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      Post #78918, posted on 09-06-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      I know it is not the subject of this topic (Boeing or Martin Clipper) but...

      Sword released 15-20 years ago a LOVELY Sikorsky S-43 kit in 1/72. It was later reboxed by Special Hobby and Eduard.

      It is short run but on the good side (no locating pins but the overall moulding quality is good with well defined small parts and no flashes).

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      I know it is not the subject of this topic (Boeing or Martin Clipper) but...

      Sword released 15-20 years ago a LOVELY Sikorsky S-43 kit in 1/72. It was later reboxed by Special Hobby and Eduard.

      It is short run but on the good side (no locating pins but the overall moulding quality is good with well defined small parts and no flashes).
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      Yes, I have seen built up examples of the S43 and have a copy of the SWORD kit in my stash, pleading with me to get started on it

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      Post #78920, posted on 09-06-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Also a little off topic, Welsh Models have 1/144 kits for several Shorts flying boats in their Yesteryear series and F-RSIN did a very nice Shorts S.25 Sandringham although it is now out of production.

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      Post #78921, posted on 09-06-2021 GMT-5 hours    
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      Also a little off topic, Welsh Models have 1/144 kits for several Shorts flying boats in their Yesteryear series and F-RSIN did a very nice Shorts S.25 Sandringham although it is now out of production.



      Thanks for the tip.... I had overlooked the Welsh kits, although I have been reluctant to tackle a resin kit, I may take a flyer on one of these.