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      Post #78571, posted on 07-13-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Anyone bought/used Airlinerdecals.com decals? At Airliners we were looking forward to next year in Chicago. Airlines of Illinois will be the theme and a Southwest Illinois One would be a great build.

      The decals look pretty basic on the website. I'm also looking at the Nevada One decal and it also looks like some of the decal is printed with a blue "background" where a builder will need to match the blue to the decal.

      https://www.airlinedecals.com/southwest-airlines

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      Post #78575, posted on 07-13-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Never heard of this site before. What a selection!! Ordered some: we'll see how it goes...

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      Post #78576, posted on 07-13-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      No, but they've got a cool collection! Might have to start building a fleet

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      Post #78577, posted on 07-14-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Ken,

      Your assessment is correct. Very basic, and potentially some faults. I had ordered a
      set where the font was completely wrong. I'm not saying don't order. Just don't expect
      the usual high quality we get from the known subjects.

      Alan Aronoff
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      Post #78579, posted on 07-14-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      I just went to his web site. The DC-4's page caught my eye.

      I was very surprised to see my Alaska DC-4 profile art work (for DRAW Decal) on his site. Not only did he not ask to use it, he removed my name and copyright.

      Using my art work to sell his product, constitutes copyright infringement. I will be contacting him on this matter.

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      Post #78581, posted on 07-14-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      I had a look at the site out of curiosity.

      The first one I noticed was the British Eagle/Cunard Eagle DC-6. The font for the main titles is so ridiculously wrong it's actually funny and makes me wonder what on earth the person who designed the decals was looking at. Much the same applies to the BOAC Cargo DC-7C which also seems to lack cheatlines. Good luck to anybody who tries to paint them.

      The Air Wales ATR-42 also caught my eye because I recently built a model in that livery using Classic Airlines decals. It isn't immediately obvious why Airlinerdecals.com would produce such a rare livery when it has already been covered (and covered far better) by another maker. I can't help wondering if it is just coincidence that their sheet has the same registration as Classic Airlines and an almost identical windscreen decal. I think I might drop Nick Webb an e-mail in case he wants to investigate further.

      It's a great pity because some of the liveries are very tempting but given Alan Aronoff's comments about quality, the obvious lack of proper research and the possibility of piracy I think I'll stay away.

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      Post #78584, posted on 07-14-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      This guy has been on eBay for awhile as ďrugburnerĒ or similar. The feedback was questionable - usually due to font/size/color register - but I cannot find them now.

      The decals on the website look the same, a quick eyeball shows some fonts that look pretty off as well as some unique liveries (of planes Iíve flown) that arenít quite correct. Reading the ďabout usĒ section on there explains that itís the usersí problem and you should be better at making models than demanding accuracy.

      That said, and assuming heís not pirating as mentioned above, I guess he does have a point; you donít have to buy them and for many liveries he may be the only one making them. Iím happy to see any producer out there in our hobby. But I wonít buy something that far off/ simplified for any of my builds. Doubly so if there are copyright issues.

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      Post #78590, posted on 07-14-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      I sent an email to this guy last night about removing my artwork from his site. I have yet to hear back yet.
      The more I think about this the madder I get.

      All of us who work very hard in long hours doing research, decal work up, instructions and printing, so that the modeler receives an accurate representation of the airline we are building.

      Then comes this clown, who doesn't put in the time and effort to do it right and sells it for the same price as the pros.

      Looking at a side by side comparison, there are way too many faults in his Alaska DC-4 art. I was lucky to have access to the Alaska files for my work on DRAW's Alaska project.

      Support your favorite decal company, not this bozo. All you will get is disappointment.

      Tim

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      Post #78592, posted on 07-14-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Tim,

      That's cause for more than an email. I hardly blame you for being angry. I tried to be
      "polite" with my original comment on this thread. If I were to actually take the gloves
      off, his product might be OK for his own use. But it's definitely NOT for public consumption.
      Aside from incorrect fonts and colours, there are no instructions, and not even a photo of
      the subject aircraft. Also, his decal stock is not the best, by far. As you say, stick with
      our usual sources. They deserve our support. This one does not.

      Alan Aronoff
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      Post #78594, posted on 07-15-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Agreed. As prviously mentioned, this guy previously traded on ebay as "rugburna320". I have several of his decals which range in quality from reasonable to dreadful. Obvious howlers include wrong coloursand registrations. Several are a very poor fit, including one for an AirAsia A320 which, when placed alongside the model, looked more like 1/72 scale than 1/144. It gived me no pleasure to be critical of anyone in the after-market business but in this case it is difficult to find any redeemig qualities.

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      Post #78595, posted on 07-15-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      If this guy has indeed lifted Tim's artwork without permission, that's reason enough to never do business with him. I've had my own art lifted before (by an eBayer who is rather infamous in motorsports modeling circles) and it's infuriating to have untold hours of painstaking work ripped off.

      I won't even get into the accuracy issues (seriously, is there a font he doesn't use?) or that the website just leaves me with an unsettled feeling that I can't put my finger on.

      There are a lot of first-class artists and decal makers in our hobby who take the time to create accurate products. They do the homework and they stand behind what they produce. They may not produce every livery we'd like to see, but we know what we're getting from them, and we know they'll make it right if something goes amiss. Even if I had seen a livery I wanted from this website, I'm not sure it would be worth the potential hassles of overcoming whatever errors were in the product, either in accuracy or in trying to make it fit the subject model.

      Hard pass, y'all.

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      Post #78614, posted on 07-16-2021 GMT-5 hours    
      Looks like I stirred up some "stuff" with my question. Copying others artwork BAD.....
      Yea I'd like to build an Illinois One but not that bad. I'll be taking a pass. Thanks for the input both on the thread and via PM.

      Ken