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Post #63321, posted on 05-31-2016 GMT-5 hours    
MikroMir have announced a joint collaboration with Eastern Express to release an injection moulded MD-11.

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235003314-mcdonnell-douglas-md-11-1144/

Something to look forward to.

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Post #63322, posted on 05-31-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Please tell me this is no April 1st joke. If not than this is the best new kit announcement ever!

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Post #63323, posted on 05-31-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Well it's from the manufacturers page on Britmodeller, "from the horses mouth" so to speak!

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Post #63324, posted on 05-31-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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Please tell me this is no April 1st joke. If not than this is the best new kit announcement ever!



Really? Better than the Roden VC-10 or the Zvezda 777? Let's not get carried away until we see the plastic. Eastern Express aren't Zvezda or even Revell. They've produced some truly atrocious kits (the A318 springs to mind) and I think most of us would consider the Tristar a bit of a disappointment. I'll be delighted if the involvement of MikroMir means the MD-11 turns out to be a masterpiece but nothing involving EE fills me with confidence.

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Post #63326, posted on 05-31-2016 GMT-5 hours    
What an interesting development! I didn't expect an MD-11 to ever be released in 1/144 plastic.

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Post #63328, posted on 05-31-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Good 3D drawings do not guarantee a good kit by any means, I'm afraid. But still, cool news so far!

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Post #63329, posted on 05-31-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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Good 3D drawings do not guarantee a good kit by any means, I'm afraid.



As a great many Tumpeter, Hobby Boss, and Kitty Hawk kits prove...

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Post #63333, posted on 05-31-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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Please tell me this is no April 1st joke. If not than this is the best new kit announcement ever!



Really? Better than the Roden VC-10 or the Zvezda 777? Let's not get carried away until we see the plastic. Eastern Express aren't Zvezda or even Revell. They've produced some truly atrocious kits (the A318 springs to mind) and I think most of us would consider the Tristar a bit of a disappointment. I'll be delighted if the involvement of MikroMir means the MD-11 turns out to be a masterpiece but nothing involving EE fills me with confidence.



I think we all will agree that there is still not a single A318 1/144 kit being produced. I converted my EE kit into a Heinkel HE111 with little effort.

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Post #63338, posted on 06-01-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Hope there isn't a lot of hype surrounding the MD-11 like there was with the L-1011. That Tristar model was a big disappointment.

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Post #63346, posted on 06-02-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Eastern Express has been a mixed bag, some of it workable stuff and some of it disappointing. MikroMir has produced some really nice and affordable kits of early atomic submarines. With this apparent joint venture, anything could happen. May I cast a vote for "let's wait and see the kit before we cast any judgment"?

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Post #63347, posted on 06-02-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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...... "let's wait and see the kit before we cast any judgment"?

Jodie Peeler



...and let's count the rivets!

Sorry guys, this joke had to be now!
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Post #65132, posted on 12-12-2016 GMT-5 hours    


presumably this will be a New Year's gift.

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Post #65135, posted on 12-13-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Oh oh, that is going to cost me a lot of money... Let's hope that 26 will release it as one of their kits including their decals as well.

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Post #65136, posted on 12-13-2016 GMT-5 hours    
A fairly good MD11 is better than no MD11! Any news on L1011-500?

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Post #65137, posted on 12-13-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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Oh oh, that is going to cost me a lot of money... Let's hope that 26 will release it as one of their kits including their decals as well.


It is certainly a possibility ;)

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Post #65138, posted on 12-13-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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A fairly good MD11 is better than no MD11! Any news on L1011-500?



We already have an exceptionally good MD-11 from Authentic Airliners. I know it isn't cheap but you get what you pay for.

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Post #65139, posted on 12-13-2016 GMT-5 hours    
I know AA is offering superb models but for a lot of modellers the price is simply to high :-(

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Post #65140, posted on 12-13-2016 GMT-5 hours    
I'd rather have a Convair 340 in 1/72 scale.

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Post #65141, posted on 12-13-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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I'd rather have a Convair 340 in 1/72 scale.



When I win the lotto and am independently wealthy, one of the first kits my model company is going to produce is a 1/72 Convair series. 240/T-29/340/440/580/600.

Count on it!

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I'd rather have a Convair 340 in 1/72 scale.



It would be nice if people stop asking what they want in a thread about a totally different model kit. It's always the same in threads like this: people stating kit A is useless and they should invest money in kit B. Nothing wrong with having your wishes but this is getting a bit old.

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Post #65144, posted on 12-13-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Steering this back to the MD-11 kit, I am happy to see progress on this. I know Kurt does a beautiful MD-11, but it's very expensive (the only reason I have one in my queue is because I'm especially fond of the MD-11 and convinced myself to splurge). If MikroMir was involved in the kit I can speak as a satisfied customer of MM's nautical kits, which required a little work but produced happy results. I'm hoping the same will happen with this kit and it'll put a good Mad Dog within the means of more folks.

I don't know if we'll get a PW-powered variant, but if one of our decal makers wants to do the 1997 Delta colors, I have photos and a little bit of artwork already done that I'll happily contribute to the cause.

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Post #65145, posted on 12-13-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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I'd rather have a Convair 340 in 1/72 scale.



It would be nice if people stop asking what they want in a thread about a totally different model kit. It's always the same in threads like this: people stating kit A is useless and they should invest money in kit B. Nothing wrong with having your wishes but this is getting a bit old.



I agree! Good point.

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Post #65146, posted on 12-13-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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Steering this back to the MD-11 kit, I am happy to see progress on this. I know Kurt does a beautiful MD-11, but it's very expensive (the only reason I have one in my queue is because I'm especially fond of the MD-11 and convinced myself to splurge). If MikroMir was involved in the kit I can speak as a satisfied customer of MM's nautical kits, which required a little work but produced happy results. I'm hoping the same will happen with this kit and it'll put a good Mad Dog within the means of more folks.

I don't know if we'll get a PW-powered variant, but if one of our decal makers wants to do the 1997 Delta colors, I have photos and a little bit of artwork already done that I'll happily contribute to the cause.

Jodie Peeler



Apparently we will. Over on Britmodeller the owner of MikroMir has confirmed this, with the GE version being released first.

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235003314

Have a read through this!

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Post #65148, posted on 12-13-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Delta Airlines MD-11 for sure.
Jodie, 1997 colors?
This one? http://www.welshmodels.co.uk/SL165.html
I thin the decals were done by Ray, 26Decals
but this one, oh yes!!!

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Delta-Air-Lines/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-11/698304?qsp=eJxtjsEOgkAMRP%2BlZw5E0BBuEhOPevAHmu6oGxE23SZKCP/uAsaTt868yXRGkr4zvO0yBFBNEaxyp4wCKz8j1SOxV1G%2BWsPRyxqrdkWR/cARHfQ/oroo83yb0QPDq1eXCumA1jh9iL1aMyTDsWEvgmBwX/%2BkDjojRFnG3OZxm/mEnldVlUk6H0PLSwuMfUvT9AFgjEU2


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Post #65149, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Excellent news! I've been waiting to build this beauty for years.

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Post #65151, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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Oh oh, that is going to cost me a lot of money... Let's hope that 26 will release it as one of their kits including their decals as well.


It is certainly a possibility ;)



Splendid! I hope they will come with the '90's KLM decals in silk...

And some other decals not yet released by the common reliable producers would be much appreciated as well of course. Such as Alitalia, Eva Air and Mandarin Airlines. The '96 olympics Delta MD-11 would be om my wishlist too as I have very good memmories of that summer. It was the first time I would fly and my first visit to the US.

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Post #65152, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
V1 decals already produce Alitalia MD-11 decals (passenger, combi and cargo) and having used a set of V1 decals recently I can vouch for their ease of use and the reliability of Ben at V1decals. But, I do agree, I'd love to see loads of sheets released for this kit.

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Post #65154, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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Post #65155, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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Apparently we will. Over on Britmodeller the owner of MikroMir has confirmed this, with the GE version being released first.

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235003314

Have a read through this!



That link just takes you to the main BM forum page, and using their utterly worthless search function, I can't find anything on the MD-11 (or MD11, since the Brits seem to have a hefty surcharge on the use of the hyphen in aircraft designations).

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Post #65156, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Try this, if you scroll down about a third of the way you will start to see pics of the sprues:
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235003314-mcdonnell-douglas-md-11-1144/

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Post #65158, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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Try this, if you scroll down about a third of the way you will start to see pics of the sprues:
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235003314-mcdonnell-douglas-md-11-1144/



That Link works much better! Thanks, Ray.

I'm really looking forward to this one. The MD-11 is one of my favorites and the pictures of the plastic looks fantastic. Delta and KLM will be first up! Kits are coming out way faster than I can build them!!

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Post #65160, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Oops! My bad, but we're all sorted now. Searching MikroMir would've yielded results...

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Post #65162, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
It's been eons since I really dug into DC-10 and MD-11 details. But am I wrong that (speaking about 1/144 here...) basically removing the wing tip extensions and winglets, rounding off the tail cone, shortening the fuselage, DC-10 engines, and using a larger horizontal stab would basically get you a late build DC-10-30 with all the PIP mods?

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Post #65166, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Some of good shots http://pas-decals.ru/forum/novosti/6856-novinki-2017#29392

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Post #65167, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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It's been eons since I really dug into DC-10 and MD-11 details. But am I wrong that (speaking about 1/144 here...) basically removing the wing tip extensions and winglets, rounding off the tail cone, shortening the fuselage, DC-10 engines, and using a larger horizontal stab would basically get you a late build DC-10-30 with all the PIP mods?



The number 2 engine inlet is different as well to my understanding. Other than that I think you are pretty much there.

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Post #65168, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
If you've got a few spare minutes, have a look at the Ultimate DC-10 & MD-11 Guide here on this site. From what you've suggested, I think that is the gist of the differences. I would provide a link to it but would probably post the wrong link...

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Some of good shots http://pas-decals.ru/forum/novosti/6856-novinki-2017#29392

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Nice to see that they considered the aircraft names in both white and blue letters for the option to build the "new" scheme in both the pre and post air france merger colors. A pitty though that they did not include dark blue botom door outlines en the KLM-Northwest alliance logo to build the "original" livery as well. I am really looking forward to holding the kit in hands. I wonder howe er why they made the tail and vertical stabilizer a separate part from the fuselage. I can't see them using either part for a DC-10. Only a part with the updated number 2 engine outlet would be a possibility. But then I see no reason for the initial KLM release as these had the bigger inlet.

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Post #65170, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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The number 2 engine inlet is different as well to my understanding. Other than that I think you are pretty much there.



Greetings!

The early MD-11 variants had an intake similar to the DC-10-40, but the later ones had the intake bulge extended rearward to the banjo frame as part of the PIP. You might find some photos taken at Schiphol of KLM MD-11s lined up so you can see the difference. BTW, this PIP mod was not retrofittable. The airplane was built with it, or it was not installed at all.

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I wonder howe er why they made the tail and vertical stabilizer a separate part from the fuselage.



It seems that this is due to some sort of production moments.

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Post #65173, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
I guess I'll have to hurry up and finish my Welsh MD-11 before this comes out! Hopefully 26 models will get a hold of some MikroMirs to issue with their decals....

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Post #65174, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
cant say anything if its true to scale or anything, but it looks like it is Il18/An22 quality.
Which means for most of us: it will hurt in the pocket...

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Post #65175, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Wow, the test shot pictures got me excited.. Hopefully it won't cost much more than 50 though!! (25 is fine as well guys, thanks)

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Post #65178, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
As to the cost, the MikroMir Argosy is selling on eBay for 23 (+ 7 postage). That could mean that this larger kit will cost considerably more. On the other hand, the Eastern Express Shorts 330 retails for the same sort of price on eBay (and it's a tiny kit) but Ray has them on his site for 17 and I bought a couple from him at Telford. There could be hope! Keeping fingers crossed he can get hold of a crate load of them.

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Post #65179, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Nix window holes? GRRRRRRRRR
Nix swissair -> Lufthansa Cargo!

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Post #65180, posted on 12-14-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Having now seen the test shots online...I like this, a lot. Looking forward to what's to come.

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Nix window holes? GRRRRRRRRR
Nix swissair -> Lufthansa Cargo!



Window openings have been debated to DEATH. It's a no-win situation for any manufacturer. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. A nice looking injection molded MD-11 with no window openings is better than no nice looking injection molded MD-11. That's the bottom line.

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Post #65189, posted on 12-16-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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Window openings have been debated to DEATH. It's a no-win situation for any manufacturer. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. A nice looking injection molded MD-11 with no window openings is better than no nice looking injection molded MD-11. That's the bottom line.



Really? Didn't noticed that....
EXACTLY that's why I made my statement! 👍👍👍
...and my point of disappointment.
BTW we didn't yet discussed to DEATH about rivets and panel lines....

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Post #65192, posted on 12-17-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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Nix window holes? GRRRRRRRRR
Nix swissair -> Lufthansa Cargo!

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Post #65402, posted on 01-03-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Eastern Express MD11 now available on ebay, a bit expensive....
TMAAOSw44BYaTfg">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Eastern-Express-1-144-Airliner-MD-11-KLM-EE144102-/252705607055?hash=item3ad66d8d8f:gTMAAOSw44BYaTfg

Decals for Aviaco F27 and AeBal MD87 would be very nice!

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Post #65419, posted on 01-03-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Yes its very expensive and its sold out....