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Post #68137, posted on 09-15-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Here they go with the -500

LTU, United and air transat

https://www.ebay.de/i/253155557676

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Post #68138, posted on 09-15-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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Here they go with the -500

LTU, United and air transat

https://www.ebay.de/i/253155557676




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Cool, all we need BWIA decals

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Post #68139, posted on 09-15-2017 GMT-5 hours    
PAN AM would be fine!

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Post #68140, posted on 09-15-2017 GMT-5 hours    
yeppy BWIA two liveries

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Post #68141, posted on 09-16-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Pan am and early BWIA for me!

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Post #68161, posted on 09-16-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Hi all,

With the AA kit being out of stock for awhile now, I知 considering picking up a few of these kits. A few questions, though.

- as asked earlier in the thread, is there a list or diagram of errors/omissions that the modeler may wish to correct?
- are the panel lines accurate?
- is there any aftermarket available? I知 aware of decals, of course, but I知 referring to landing gear, PE fan blades, better engines, etc.

Many thanks,

Bob

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Post #68163, posted on 09-16-2017 GMT-5 hours    
PS. Just saw these on the Bay of Evil: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-144-Metallic-Details-Detailing-set-for-aircraft-model-L-1011-Tristar-MD14411-/182639037177?hash=item2a86228af9:g:TLgAAOSwz71ZUX6M

I'm not sure I like all of those details sitting so proud of the fuselage. Any ideas or opinions on this product?

Bob

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Post #68170, posted on 09-16-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Yes. BeeWee(s).
And AC (with `Singapore`85' markings) and BA Landor.
And Royal Jordanian.....

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Post #68183, posted on 09-17-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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Hi all,

With the AA kit being out of stock for awhile now, I知 considering picking up a few of these kits. A few questions, though.

- as asked earlier in the thread, is there a list or diagram of errors/omissions that the modeler may wish to correct?
- are the panel lines accurate?
- is there any aftermarket available? I知 aware of decals, of course, but I知 referring to landing gear, PE fan blades, better engines, etc.

Many thanks,

Bob



at least it has all the flaws of the otaki kit.
with the -500, i dont know. nobody has seen it so far, but since there are a lot of differences to the -200 i guess some of these will add some more problems.
so , at that point, i suggest: wait for kurts AA L-1011, its the best!

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Post #68184, posted on 09-17-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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PS. Just saw these on the Bay of Evil: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-144-Metallic-Details-Detailing-set-for-aircraft-model-L-1011-Tristar-MD14411-/182639037177?hash=item2a86228af9:g:TLgAAOSwz71ZUX6M

I'm not sure I like all of those details sitting so proud of the fuselage. Any ideas or opinions on this product?

Bob



that price is insane!!!

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Post #68196, posted on 09-18-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Just wondering if anyone has access to any drawings of the frisbee fairing, and perhaps the engines? I was considering CADding some up and 3D printing it to make a future build more accurate.

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Post #68199, posted on 09-18-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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PS. Just saw these on the Bay of Evil: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-144-Metallic-Details-Detailing-set-for-aircraft-model-L-1011-Tristar-MD14411-/182639037177?hash=item2a86228af9:g:TLgAAOSwz71ZUX6M

I'm not sure I like all of those details sitting so proud of the fuselage. Any ideas or opinions on this product?

Bob



that price is insane!!!



I agree 100% with you..The price is really insane especially if you have to buy for six L1011 models.. I prefer to by authentic airline decals with that money lol

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Post #68201, posted on 09-18-2017 GMT-5 hours    
I notice that the decals for the -500 series are made by PAS and have white backing decals to eliminate transparency. I wouldn't bet against after-market decals for these kits coming from the same place.

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Post #68205, posted on 09-19-2017 GMT-5 hours    
re: photo-etch

There is a set from Platz in Japan which goes for about US $10 (1188 Yen).

http://www.platz-hobby.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=736&language=en

Disclaimer: I haven't actually got a Platz set. I just recalled its existence. It appears to have both 1/200 and 1/144 on the same etch frame and is probably intended for the Hasegawa and Otaki kits, respectively. I forget if there is photoetch included in the now old 1/200 Platz TriStar-500 conversion kit. But perhaps it is this one?
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I think I just found the same `pricey' photoetch set on a Ukrainian website. 443,- in Ukrainian money is about US $17.:

https://www.hobby.dn.ua/metallic-details-mdt-md14411-detailing-set-for-aircraft-model-1011-tristar-1144-p-78817.html?language=en&osCsid=02vk71fvqd1mea5vo0ettvcvd2&osCsid=02vk71fvqd1mea5vo0ettvcvd2

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Post #68219, posted on 09-21-2017 GMT-5 hours    
This should make a few people happy!

http://www.26decals.com/epages/62035508.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/62035508/Products/144-854

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Post #68220, posted on 09-21-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Purty!

Does anyone know if Eastern Express changed the wing from the earlier version? The -500 had a slightly different wing than the -200. If Otaki did, then I'm guessing that EE did? Would I be wrong to make that assumption?

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Post #68221, posted on 09-21-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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This should make a few people happy!

http://www.26decals.com/epages/62035508.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/62035508/Products/144-854

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i am over happy

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Post #68226, posted on 09-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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Purty!

Does anyone know if Eastern Express changed the wing from the earlier version? The -500 had a slightly different wing than the -200. If Otaki did, then I'm guessing that EE did? Would I be wrong to make that assumption?

bob


Slightly different wing? IIRC it was a 10-ft span increase, similar to what they did on the DC-10.

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Post #68228, posted on 09-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
So, did they or didn't they?

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Post #68229, posted on 09-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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So, did they or didn't they?



Looking at the photos in this link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/253155559620?chn=ps&dispItem=1

I'd say that they did.

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Post #68231, posted on 09-23-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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So, did they or didn't they?



Looking at the photos in this link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/253155559620?chn=ps&dispItem=1

I'd say that they did.

Chris



I cobbled together this comparison pic, and yes, its obvious to me that they did extend the wingtips:



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Post #68232, posted on 09-23-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Besides the longer wing, the wing engine fairings were different. It is not depicted on the paint guide sheet so I wonder if EE got this.

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Post #68262, posted on 09-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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Besides the longer wing, the wing engine fairings were different. It is not depicted on the paint guide sheet so I wonder if EE got this.



What do you mean by "wing engine fairings"??

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Post #68267, posted on 09-27-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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Besides the longer wing, the wing engine fairings were different. It is not depicted on the paint guide sheet so I wonder if EE got this.



What do you mean by "wing engine fairings"??



Do you mean wing/fuselage fairings? If so, the new -500 kit has the correct fairings for a -500.

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Post #68269, posted on 09-27-2017 GMT-5 hours    
No, I think he's talking about the engines pylons where the meet the wing; I remember reading somewhere that this part on the -500 was angled where it joined the wing, but looking for a picture to illustrate this I couldn't find one. It may have been a development/ trials thing.

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Post #68273, posted on 09-27-2017 GMT-5 hours    
I believe there's a picture in the Airliner Tech Series on the L-1011. I'll check when I get home.

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Post #68280, posted on 09-27-2017 GMT-5 hours    
^ Yep, that's where I saw it.

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Post #68285, posted on 09-27-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Wasn't there also a difference in the number of flaps between the -500 and all other versions' wings?

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Post #68286, posted on 09-28-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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No, I think he's talking about the engines pylons where the meet the wing; I remember reading somewhere that this part on the -500 was angled where it joined the wing, but looking for a picture to illustrate this I couldn't find one. It may have been a development/ trials thing.

Jeff


Here you go:


All the best
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Post #68287, posted on 09-28-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Thanks Ray, that's the fairing.
Looking at your pictures on the AMD email you sent last night (and not having the kit myself) are those parts provided? There is a small sprue that appears to have "triangular" parts on it, but looking at it I think they're for the Frisbee fairing?

Was the engine pylon fairing an optional fit or removed in later years? The aircraft in the pictures above are the same.

Thanks,

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Post #68288, posted on 09-28-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Hi Jeff.
No they aren't in the kit and the small sprue is the frisbee fairing plus blade aerials.
I guess that it was later removed.

All the best
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Post #68290, posted on 09-28-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Re: the Fairing. Most of the -500s that I've seen pictures of do not have them installed. Must have been an option?

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Post #68298, posted on 09-29-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Wasn't that pylon fairing just a test?

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Post #68300, posted on 09-29-2017 GMT-5 hours    
I tried to look for the reference last night but couldn't find it, but I think I have read that the pylon fairing was removed after tests or (airline?) experience showed it made little or no difference.

Ray/26Decals, I have to ask, do you expect to sell the -500s-with-a-decal combo as you have done with the larger EE Tristar?

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Post #68301, posted on 09-29-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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I tried to look for the reference last night but couldn't find it, but I think I have read that the pylon fairing was removed after tests or (airline?) experience showed it made little or no difference.

Ray/26Decals, I have to ask, do you expect to sell the -500s-with-a-decal combo as you have done with the larger EE Tristar?



Hi Nils.
Yes I will be reboxing the kit with my decals hopefully in time for Telford.

All the best
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Post #68303, posted on 09-29-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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I have received Pan Am decals from DRAW and I was notified last week that the model has been shipped.

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Post #68304, posted on 09-29-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Sorry, I can't get my scanner to work so I can't post the pic, but it is there in the Airliner Tech book. The -500 came with a different pylon to wing fairing to compensate for the newer RB.211's higher thrust and weight. However, I agree that it didn't appear on every -500. From examining photos on Airliner.net, it appears that not all -500s had it, and maybe most didn't given how relatively rarely it seems to show up. Most modelers can probably get away without it, unless the specific plane they're building is known to have carried it.

Bob