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      Post #55749, posted on 12-24-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi All.
      Just picked up the new AModel Comet 4B kit:



      Typical AModel quality with fine recessed panel lines and resin jet pipes but no tail skid!
      Decals are poor with the registration G-ARMA!!!

      All the best
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      Post #55752, posted on 12-24-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Ray, thank you for these shots. Fears that we would get a rip-off of the Airfix kit are allayed. Looks more than workmanlike and a vast improvement on the Airfix kit. I do hope they produce a 4C, as they are likely to. This would make sound business sense for them. (It would also leave my stash of 1/72 scale drop tanks redundant...)

      Amodel seem to have faithfully followed the Comet 4B drawings which appeared in the Aeromodeller about 55 years or more ago. Shame the windows are solid. Comets had large windows and decals would look toy-like.

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      Post #55754, posted on 12-24-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      skippiebg :Shame the windows are solid.



      My totally unscientific survey of opinions on clear vs. solid windows, going back to when I first started doing airliner decals over 20 years ago is that it is split virtually 50/50 across the board.


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      Post #55756, posted on 12-24-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Is it because of the angle of the photo or do I have a problem with my eyes - the decal windows look circular?
      Hm I though Comets had elliptical windows...am I wrong?

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      Post #55763, posted on 12-24-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Here are some additional views:

      https://cloud.mail.ru/public/44bb9cb760dd/IMG_3676.JPG

      https://cloud.mail.ru/public/fb3882ca4c2d/IMG_3677.JPG

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      Post #55764, posted on 12-24-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      You're correct Uwe, Comets did have oval windows. But Amodel's decals are uniformly lousy, so it doesn't matter much.

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      Post #55769, posted on 12-24-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      I wonder why there are 12 main wheels?

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      Post #55772, posted on 12-25-2014 GMT-5 hours    
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      I wonder why there are 12 main wheels?

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      Maybe they're in halves, so there's 12 on one sprue and 4 on the other....

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      Post #55774, posted on 12-25-2014 GMT-5 hours    


      Maybe they're in halves, so there's 12 on one sprue and 4 on the other....



      Except that there are only 8 wheels on the main sprue. Skippiebg's link shows them from a different angle where they seem to be thick enough to be one-piece.

      It's interesting that the wings are on their own sprues. If I had wanted to offer a 4B and a 4C, that's exactly how I'd have done it, with common moulds for the fuselage, stabs and landing gears, and alternative 4B or 4C wing moulds. Doesn't explain the 4 extra wheels, though.

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      Post #55843, posted on 12-29-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      I took a photo of the AModel Comet 4B along with the Welsh Comet 4 & Airfix Comet 4B for comparison:

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      Post #56241, posted on 01-23-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Considering the alternatives, Nick Webb released the Mexicana livery that I liked.
      Now the kit, Welsh or Amodel ?

      Your recommendations please....

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      Post #56242, posted on 01-23-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Cesare, go for the Welsh Models kit. The Airfix and Amodel are 4Bs, without the large and distinctive leading edge pinion tanks that Mexicana's Comet 4C had. There are supplementary kits with these tanks out there, but they are not very good. Using unwanted bombs or drop-tanks from other kits is quite difficult -- like, you spend ages fitting them, and after all that time one ends up pointing proudly skywards and the other nodding downwards... you know...

      The Amodel is quite a lot underscale. Without using a calculator, I'd say it was about 1/148-ish true scale. Its wing leading edge sweep is greater by 1 or 2 degrees than those of the Airfix and Welsh Models Comets, and wing chord (the distance between the leading and trailing edges of the wing) is significantly shorter than even the 1/148th true scale would suggest, It also has a fin and dorsal fin that are practically unattachable to the tailcone without some sort of DIY fixing.

      The fact that Amodel has given us an underscale Comet is a _huge_ shame, since their model is true in terms of shape (nicely shaped nose, nice flat belly versus the wrong Airfix/Welsh Models bulge, correctly shaped engines top and bottom, real nice subtle wing kink at 1/3 span, nice thin wing, tailplanes and fin). It is also wonderfully detailed in terms of skin scribing (I doubt much of it will survive the ardours of short-run injection moulding in future releases).

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      Post #56244, posted on 01-23-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Thank you Skippiebg,
      Very detailed clarification, I think the welsh with the resin wings will do it.

      Thanks again...

      Cesar

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      Post #64134, posted on 08-29-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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      I think the welsh with the resin wings will do it.



      Or... assuming a -4C is the objective, perhaps the AModel kit with 26/Two-six 1/144 resin wing tip conversion which includes integrally molded pinion tanks. Can anyone confirm which 1/144 kit this conversion is designed to best fit? (presumably AModel or Airfix?)

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      Post #64148, posted on 08-30-2016 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi,
      perhapse the new released -4C from AModel will do?

      Uwe