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      Post #52687, posted on 04-07-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Within the range of Model Master/Testors and/or Tamiya enamels, what is the closest match for KLM current livery blue (upper fuselage)?

      Also, is there a near match for KLM upper fuselage light blue used for their pre-1990s livery with dark blue KLM tail logos?

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      Post #52707, posted on 04-08-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      RoG says 85%white plus 15%light blue 50 is the match for the engines and 80% blue50 plus 20% blue 52 for the lower fuse. Do you get your hands on these Revell clours? Also Revell 50 is the older KLM blue, the new one is just a littler brighter, but I used xtra color for that one.

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      Post #52709, posted on 04-08-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Unfortunately Revell and XtraColor paint has essentially vanished from the U.S. market due (I'm told) to the ban on paint being shipped by air that has been in effect long enough for the stocks on hand at U.S. distributors to become nearly to fully depleted.

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      Post #52725, posted on 04-09-2014 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Todd,
      if you give me some time I will check my painted spoons I use to compare all the different shades of colours. There are some close matches by Modelmaster. I will post them here for you.

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      Post #56449, posted on 02-02-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Hello Herbert,
      I was wondering if you had had the opportunity to check your samples against Modelmaster paints for the current KLM light blue? Todd's dilemma is shared with Canadian modellers. Whatever advice you or other airliner modelers can share would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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      Post #56454, posted on 02-02-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Frank, I will check that towards the weekend, there are for sure some mixtures with modelmaster to come close to that bright new KLM blue. Here in Europe with RAL paints we have a color called skyblue(Himmelblau) RAL5015. Check that on the net, I have a mix of Modelmaster blues and white around that comes very close.

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      Post #56476, posted on 02-03-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      For all of you without access to Revell Colors you can also use xtracolor X302, it's KLM light blue too.

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      Post #56493, posted on 02-04-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      http://www.plastic-model-kits.com/tamiya-spray-lacquer-ts-10-french-blue-100ml-85010.html?gclid=CPDL4ezXyMMCFXRk7AodkzsABw that's what I used on my build.

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      Post #56517, posted on 02-06-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi all,

      Please be aware of the fact that Xtra Color makes two different types of KLM blue paint:
      X302: previous blue
      X312: current (brighter) blue

      Brad: Which one is the match with Tamiya French blue?

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      Post #56518, posted on 02-06-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      I don't really trust in 'exact paint matches' as a 1:144th scale model is not the same as a huge 30 meter aluminium tube. I used Xtra Color X312 on my Embraer 190 and it still looks too dark to me, though it should be the exact same colour.

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      Post #56519, posted on 02-06-2015 GMT-5 hours    
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      I don't really trust in 'exact paint matches' as a 1:144th scale model is not the same as a huge 30 meter aluminium tube. I used Xtra Color X312 on my Embraer 190 and it still looks too dark to me, though it should be the exact same colour.



      I agree completely. I used to get uptight about getting the 'exact' match for particular colours until I accepted the fact that any number of subtle shades can be 'right' depending on the reference material you are using. You can look at any number of photos of an aircraft, taken in different light conditions, and come up with several different shades. If you get a good match for an aircraft in a particular photo then, if it looks right, it is right.

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      Post #56520, posted on 02-06-2015 GMT-5 hours    
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      Hi all,

      Please be aware of the fact that Xtra Color makes two different types of KLM blue paint:
      X302: previous blue
      X312: current (brighter) blue

      Brad: Which one is the match with Tamiya French blue?

      Regards,
      Louis.



      Hi Louis,
      I used Tamiya TS-10 (French Blue) on this http://airlinercafe.com/plug.php?e=gallery&v=10778 build..

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      Post #56523, posted on 02-06-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Louis,
      I used Tamiya TS-10 (French Blue) on this http://airlinercafe.com/plug.php?e=gallery&v=10778 build..



      Superb job as always.

      Al