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      Post #26486, posted on 03-09-2009 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Guys,

      I just got the Braz A340-600 conversion. The engine cowlings are stunning! Over all it is an excellent conversion.

      What I can't believe is the poor fan blades in this conversion. They are poorly molded and have sink marks. Looks crappy. I figure I will have to cut the fan blades out and make up new ones.

      Anyone else have the same problem? I've got the 500 conversion and it's the same story.

      Maybe someone can suggest a replacement fanblade that would look good?

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      Post #26498, posted on 03-09-2009 GMT-5 hours    
      Is it just me or does this conversion seem to have lots of problems? Ive read that the fuselage diameter is off and now this. I am very glad that braz does what they do and have bought several of their products. Some of them spot on. Some of them not as good (the MD-90 fuselage plug was unusable). I understand that what they do is not at all easy and that it includes a lot of stuff but if I am going to pay $120 (a fair amount of money for a college student) for a conversion kit i would want it to be something close to perfect. In contrary I would have no problem plunking down big bucks for one of kurt's kits as they are nothing short of masterful works of art. Any thoughts?

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      Post #26499, posted on 03-09-2009 GMT-5 hours    
      It is not perfect, but certainly better than a lot of other kits regardless of price. I have note noticed this issue on my 1/144 A340-600 conversion. Honestly, the Braz 346 engines are far better than most 1/144 Revell or Minicraft engines, any many Airfix except the A300 and the DC10 engines. The cowling, the intake, the lip, the spinners and the exhaust cones are spot on and the size is accurate. I think we a lot of folks expect more for the price which therefore drives more criticsm of these kits than the lower priced ones. I would take those A346 or A345 engines vs. any of the Revell 747-200 PW JT9Ds or 747-400 RB211s, 767 PWs, or any DC10 engines, or the Minicraft 757, 777 RR and GE90s. We pay a premium because it is specialized for limited release and not for the high volume mass market. Let's encourage not discourage.

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      Post #26502, posted on 03-10-2009 GMT-5 hours    
      DullesFlyer,
      Dont get me wrong. I am all for any and everything that has anything to do with airliner modeling and have NO disrespect for BRAZ or any other company which conducts business. I also agree that this kit is FAR!! better than the likes of the minicraft 757, 777 etc. I also accept the fact that our hobby is very limited and, as such, we are forced to pay a premium. This is why I am willing to pay the price for the likes of what kurt and flying fish have to offer.
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      Post #26510, posted on 03-10-2009 GMT-5 hours    
      Braz in general has done a nice conversion which is not for the beginner.

      I've got very little problems with the Fuselage diameter. Any modeller with a little experience should be able to make the fuselage joints work fine.

      I am mainly concerned with poor fan blades having sink marks and dirt in the mold when they were made. It's one area of a model that is where people look. They need to be replaced and I am looking for suggestions on replacements.

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      Post #26531, posted on 03-11-2009 GMT-5 hours    
      How many millimeters is the difference between resin and kit fuselage?

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      Post #26532, posted on 03-11-2009 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Andrew,
      Why don't you email Ivo at Bra.Z? I'm sure he'll send you some replacements if you let him know your problem. I had a misaligned part so I sent him a photo of the problem with my email and he replaced it straight away.
      Got to be worth an email! He won't want you to be disappointed.
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      Post #56874, posted on 02-23-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      want to take of this subject again.
      got my conversion together with the revell A330 thai today.Saw out the fuselage parts as shown and must say: everything is fitting nicely.
      fuselage diameters from braz and revell are the same, no twisting of the resin parts, engines look great.
      the thread started in 2009. Got my kit from my distributer today but dont know, how long it was stored at his store.
      was there any updated rework from Ivo in the mean time that i may have got now?
      over all, excellent work
      As i saw, the fin is the same as the new one of the 332 (as i have got for my 332 last month). when came this out ? was it the same as in 2009 ?

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      Post #56876, posted on 02-23-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Is this what you got?



      It looks to me like just about everything is included. Why didn't Ivo include the nose and other part of the fuselage as well so you don't have to waste an entire kit just to get a chunk of the fuselage? Or am I missing something?

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      Post #56877, posted on 02-23-2015 GMT-5 hours    
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      ......

      It looks to me like just about everything is included. Why didn't Ivo include the nose and other part of the fuselage as well so you don't have to waste an entire kit just to get a chunk of the fuselage? Or am I missing something?



      Well it is sold as a conversion ........... !

      Here's a link to a masterclass on building the -600:
      http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/76616-1144th-airbus-a340-600-conversion/

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      Post #56878, posted on 02-23-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      I did the 600 conversion. The fuselage plug is too large in diameter and does not fit the revel kit. I decided to take two kits to get the fuselage length correct. I had to putty the gap behind the Braz wings but it came out very well. I built it into a new Virgin Airlines Livery. I am also planning to do a -500 Thai Airlines with another conversion set.

      The engines and wings are pretty nice. My fans did not have the imperfections that were described.

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      Post #56881, posted on 02-23-2015 GMT-5 hours    
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      Is this what you got?



      It looks to me like just about everything is included. Why didn't Ivo include the nose and other part of the fuselage as well so you don't have to waste an entire kit just to get a chunk of the fuselage? Or am I missing something?



      everything in my kit is the same but the stabs, they are also grey

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      Post #56882, posted on 02-23-2015 GMT-5 hours    
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      The fuselage plug is too large in diameter and does not fit the revel kit.

      The engines and wings are pretty nice. My fans did not have the imperfections that were described.



      This is what i was wondering about. My fuselage plug is fitting every milimeter. engines and wings are absolute stunning

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      Post #56883, posted on 02-23-2015 GMT-5 hours    
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      The fuselage plug is too large in diameter and does not fit the revel kit.

      The engines and wings are pretty nice. My fans did not have the imperfections that were described.



      This is what i was wondering about. My fuselage plug is fitting every milimeter. engines and wings are absolute stunning. Mark, one greater stunning thing is, when you are right, in the britmodeler forum they say that the revell diameter is too large.
      is the result of the resin print so different, that the diameter can be once too large and once too small ?
      so i may be the lucky one with the perfect print

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      Post #56884, posted on 02-24-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      I am the proud owner of one each, at least, of everything Ivo/BraZ
      ever done.
      I have to say the A-340-500/600 conversion is by far not one of their best. To put it very nicely!
      I paid $140 each back on the day and I have not been able to complete my A-340-600 cause I
      ran out of putty and I got tired of sanding.

      I can not comment on any conversion newer than 5 years.

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      Post #56892, posted on 02-24-2015 GMT-5 hours    
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      I did the 600 conversion. The fuselage plug is too large in diameter and does not fit the revel kit. I decided to take two kits to get the fuselage length correct. I had to putty the gap behind ...



      Hence why I was wondering why he didn't make a complete fuselage. That way you avoid all the shrinkage issues and definitely a lot less costlier for the modeler. I understand this way you can make a -500 or -600, but he could've kept it as is and provide different nose and rear sections for each type.

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      Post #56894, posted on 02-24-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Ralf, the A332 got the same fin as the 345/346 after l/n 555. IIRC Ivo's done both the older, taller A332 fin as well as the later (shared) one.

      Ahmed, I'm with you on that, seems like at that stage you'd just go with a complete tube. I hate cannibalizing kits like that. C'est la vie....

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      Post #56895, posted on 02-24-2015 GMT-5 hours    
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      aro757 :Hence why I was wondering why he didn't make a complete fuselage. That way you avoid all the shrinkage issues and definitely a lot less costlier for the modeler. I understand this way you can make a -500 or -600, but he could've kept it as is and provide different nose and rear sections for each type.



      You'd have a LOT more shrinkage issues with a pour that large, and the size alone would have precluded him from even being able to make it at that point. He was doing it out of a small apartment and pouring resin in the storage room in the basement.

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      Post #56897, posted on 02-24-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      I have a set of Braz Airbus A-345/346 conversion set as well. You all know that the engine intakes are completely wrong. They're not supposed to be round. Instead they're more like B-737 NG intakes for ground clearance purposes. Hopefully Kurt will add this project in the future to his many beautiful master pieces.

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      Post #56900, posted on 02-24-2015 GMT-5 hours    
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      aro757 :Hence why I was wondering why he didn't make a complete fuselage. That way you avoid all the shrinkage issues and definitely a lot less costlier for the modeler. I understand this way you can make a -500 or -600, but he could've kept it as is and provide different nose and rear sections for each type.



      You'd have a LOT more shrinkage issues with a pour that large, and the size alone would have precluded him from even being able to make it at that point. He was doing it out of a small apartment and pouring resin in the storage room in the basement.


      How does Kurt do it then with the MD-11? There must be some way to get the pours done. Admittedly I'm no expert, I'd be curious to know which methods there are and the various pros and cons.
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      I have a set of Braz Airbus A-345/346 conversion set as well. You all know that the engine intakes are completely wrong. They're not supposed to be round. Instead they're more like B-737 NG intakes for ground clearance purposes. Hopefully Kurt will add this project in the future to his many beautiful master pieces.


      You sure the intakes are non-circular? I know the nacelles have the slight hamster bulge, but I think the inlet rings themselves are circular.

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      Post #57051, posted on 03-03-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Have now finished the converting of the fuselage. the difference between diameter of revell and braz is not the tenth of a milimeter and all is totally straight. would show u pictures but i dont know how

      regarding the engines, think u mean this engines

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      Post #57054, posted on 03-03-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      You can clearly see the engine nacelles are not round. That's exactly what I was referring to. By the way that's a nice head on shot of A-346. If you zoom in the photo, you can see under the engines which are a little flat. This reduces the chance of striking the runway during cross wind landings.

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      Post #57057, posted on 03-03-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Yes, the nacelles are clearly hamster shaped, but it seems the intakes themselves only deviate very slightly from round. Either way, it's a bit of a bummer. FWIW, my 1:500 Herpa A346 also has too-round engines

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      Post #57058, posted on 03-04-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      What are these hamster bulge engines people are mentioning?

      I looked at the head on photo and the engines are a little flat on the bottom. I've never had a pet hamster so can't compare.

      If I'm wondering others must too. Reminds me of the Minicraft 737 "ducks butt". LOL

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      Post #57063, posted on 03-04-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      The 737 nacelles were referred to as "hamsterized" because of their squat appearance, and then it caught on to more subtle executions of the same concept. Even the V2500s on the 320s have a slight hamsterization of the nacelle, but round inlets.

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      Post #57069, posted on 03-04-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Only on the Internet can "hamstering/hamsterized/etc" be a "thing" haha...

      I have the Braz conversion in the stash. It looks beautiful all around, and while the fit seems questionable, it surely isn't insurmountable. I'm glad someone gave us an option to model this obscure bird that most airlines didn't/don't even know what to do with.

      Sorry for being so optimistic - my MC 773 conversion may have lowered my standards. ;)

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      Post #57146, posted on 03-11-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      have some problems with painting the Braz sections.

      seems that the resin is not totally dried. when i prime it, color will not unite with the resin and bubbles.

      have now tried with a special plastic primer. will see, when it is dried.

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      Post #57167, posted on 03-12-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      Ralf,

      did you "clean" the surface of the resin parts with some thinner or so? Very often resin parts have some kind of seperating wax on the surface which avoids the resin glueing into the negative forms.

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      Post #57170, posted on 03-13-2015 GMT-5 hours    
      main Problem is priming the engines.

      about cleaning with thinner or so.

      I have sanded the braz parts so much that there should not be left any seperating wax on the surface. But i only have cleaned the surface from fatty fingers. It Looks like, it works with the special plastic pre-primer.
      Now the primer stays on the Braz parts

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