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      Post #70265, posted on 06-26-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Revell?
      Zvezda?
      Or are they the same plastic?

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      Post #70266, posted on 06-26-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Revell = 1998

      Zvezda = 2015

      Revell's was fantastic 20 years ago, but it has some fairly serious problems, not least of which is that the cabin windows sit noticeably too low on the fuselage. The winglets included in later releases are about 25% too small (they're smaller than 737-300/400 winglets). The engines are very wonky as well.

      Zvezda's kit is as close as we're likely to get to a perfect 1/144 airliner kit.

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      Post #70268, posted on 06-26-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      Zvezda's kit is as close as we're likely to get to a perfect 1/144 airliner kit.



      Good to know. Thanks.

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      Post #70269, posted on 06-26-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Zvezda also gives you options for the non-winglet wingtip, the first-generation blended winglet, and the split scimitar winglet.

      Zvezda also got the shapes a lot better than Revell did, notably the engines and pylons. The wing also carries the correct dihedral, which I had to correct on the Revell kit. From a building standpoint, the Zvezda kit is one of the easiest kits to construct I've ever found. Careful test-fitting will make it possible to finish-paint the airframe and engines separately, and then join them in final assembly.

      The one disadvantage I can think of about the Zvezda kit is that I don't have six more of them. It is a wonderful kit, easy and pleasant to build, and it will make you want to build several.

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      Post #70270, posted on 06-27-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Asking for *the best* you probably want to go with the

      Authentic Airliners 737-100 / 200 / 600 / 700 / 800 / 900 series.

      The best 737-300 / 400 / 500 comes from DACO.

      The best 737-MAX for sure Zvezda, and yes, their -800 is cool as well!


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      Post #70272, posted on 06-27-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      As nice as Kurt's kits are, that's not what we're talking about here. Zvezda has access to the 3D CAD shapes for the actual aircraft, which Kurt doesn't. Most people can't afford Kurt's boutique type kit, and the Zvezda kit is very affordable.

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      Post #70274, posted on 06-27-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      I am partial to the Zvezda kit; I agree that it will cause one to desire to build many more for many reasons. Kurt's kits are in a category all their own, and are well described by Jennings when he refers to them as "boutique" kits...truly a good description. Not to ever take away from AA kits, or from Kurt's contribution to airliner modeling...they are fantastic, and certainly a standard that is above everything else; but the Zvezda kit, and even the old Revell kits, are most certainly fine kits for any airliner hobbyist.

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      Post #70279, posted on 06-27-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Do the Zvezda ones give you an option between the long and short core duct?

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      Post #70280, posted on 06-27-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      I like Zvezda.. best workmanship. Revell's wings are bit more solid.. With Zvezda the wings are very delicate.. I had to innovate ways to make the wings solid..

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      Post #70292, posted on 06-29-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      Do the Zvezda ones give you an option between the long and short core duct?



      No, but it involves nothing more complicated than hacking the end off of the long hot section and thinning out the edges.

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      Post #70296, posted on 06-30-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      True dat.

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      Post #70297, posted on 06-30-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      With one of those JLC saws (or its competitors in the thin, micro-tooth hobby saw realm), that hot-section modification takes about half the time it's taken me to type this response. Plus it's a nice, neat, well-dressed cut and all you have to do is thin out the interior edge.

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      Post #70302, posted on 07-02-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      ...if only Hasegawa would have released a 1/144 kit of the same quality as their excellent 1/200 737-800 (and -700)... to the OP, between the Revell and Zvezda 1/144 737-800 kits, for reasons already stated, Zvezda is the one to go with; the Revell kit will suffice but why go with second-best? That said, I will not think twice about someday building the (3) unstarted Revell kits remaining in my stash...unless, of course, I can sell them for a price I can't refuse;)

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      Post #70350, posted on 07-13-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      I have just sold my last Revell 737-800 in Air Berlin livery. When this kit first came out, I was able to buy many of them at local hobby Shops for $8.50 to $12.00 each. I acquired over 50 of them over time and sold them at an average of $30.00 each. The reason that I post this is to help differentiate between the very nice Zvezda "builder" kit and the Revell kit which is now a member of the "collectible" genre. We are indebted to Revell for giving us a basis for many beautiful builds and mods over the years and it now takes it's rightful place among the classics. The Zvezda kit enters the market at a considerably higher entry price and rightfully so. With the latest CAD and molding technology we have a truly beautiful example of the modern toolmakers art. Let us enjoy. Comparisons between the Revell and Zvezda kits are totally invalid. Lets go back a few years and compare the Eastern European produced model kits during the cold war years with what is now available from that region. Todays Zvezda craftsman builder kit is tomorrows collector kit. Thank the stars for the progress. !!!!!!

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      Post #70353, posted on 07-13-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      "Collectible"?? Oh, you mean eBay "collectible" - sort of like eBay "rare!!"

      Why is a comparison of the two invalid? They're two kits in the same scale of the exact same subject. I can state for a 100% positive fact that both were designed using CAD and CNC technology. The year 1999 was not completely in the dark ages.

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      Post #70354, posted on 07-14-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      ...if only Hasegawa would have released a 1/144 kit of the same quality as their excellent 1/200 737-800 (and -700)... to the OP, between the Revell and Zvezda 1/144 737-800 kits, for reasons already stated, Zvezda is the one to go with; the Revell kit will suffice but why go with second-best? That said, I will not think twice about someday building the (3) unstarted Revell kits remaining in my stash...unless, of course, I can sell them for a price I can't refuse;)

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      I might be wrong but I believe Hasegawa reboxed the Revell kit and issued it with ANA decals.

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      Post #70355, posted on 07-14-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      Asking for *the best* you probably want to go with the

      Authentic Airliners 737-100 / 200 / 600 / 700 / 800 / 900 series.

      The best 737-300 / 400 / 500 comes from DACO.

      The best 737-MAX for sure Zvezda, and yes, their -800 is cool as well!


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      Checking AA site, Kurt only list 737-100 and 737-200. I think the 737 NG aircraft are no longer offered.

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      Post #70356, posted on 07-14-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      ...if only Hasegawa would have released a 1/144 kit of the same quality as their excellent 1/200 737-800 (and -700)... to the OP, between the Revell and Zvezda 1/144 737-800 kits, for reasons already stated, Zvezda is the one to go with; the Revell kit will suffice but why go with second-best? That said, I will not think twice about someday building the (3) unstarted Revell kits remaining in my stash...unless, of course, I can sell them for a price I can't refuse;)

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      I might be wrong but I believe Hasegawa reboxed the Revell kit and issued it with ANA decals.



      You're not wrong. I had a couple of them.

      Al