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      Post #69673, posted on 03-07-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi mates, I am in doubt as some charts give FS36270 and FS36320 as a good match for Revell's Lufthansa Grey 374. Could someone make a direct comparison? I don't have the Revell color. Any opinion is welcome. I'd say FS36270, but could as well be FS36320.

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      Post #69676, posted on 03-08-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Have a Lufthansa interna color value table (Nov. 2007) on my harddisc.
      If it would help you?
      But it's a PDF.
      I am not sure if I can upload a PDF file here.

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      Post #69681, posted on 03-09-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Iíve never known Revell 374 to be referred to as Lufthansa Grey. Revell themselves simply call it Grey RAL 7001. To my eyes itís significantly too dark for Lufthansa Grey although I know that colour perception can vary.

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      Post #69686, posted on 03-09-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi,
      BAC 708 is the grey used by Lufthansa.
      Please see this thread from a couple of years ago
      http://airlinercafe.com/forums.php?m=posts&s=11&q=9743"e=61951&n=last#np
      Available from Xtracolor as X363
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      Post #69687, posted on 03-09-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      I used Revell 374 on my Authentic Airliners MD-11 and also compared an airbrushed patch by holding it to a Lufthansa plane and it looked spot on correct. Revell 374 was especially produced for the Lufthansa kits.



      RAL7001 is formerly used by the German Air Force as a silver replacement paint. That's for very sure not Lufthansa grey.
      BAC 708 / X363 is a variation of Boeing grey and surely too light in color. However, its beyond surprising to see that the thread mentioned (the image posted by Jennings) states that BAC 708 is Lufthansa grey.

      FS36270 is Neutral grey and most likely the grey used by United battleship and therefore its too dark.
      FS36320 is Dark Compass grey and slightly off but may coincide 90% with Revell 374.

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      Post #69698, posted on 03-09-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      I used Gloss Gull Gray on my Lufthansa 747-8i. I thought that it came out as a pretty good match.

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      Post #69699, posted on 03-09-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Christian,

      Having had another look at your MD11 again (and I often do as I consider it to be one of the best model airliners I've ever seen!) I have to agree Revell 374 is spot on for Lufthansa grey!

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      Post #69700, posted on 03-09-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Beautiful build, Christian! Just curious..which grey did you use for the wings?

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      Post #69701, posted on 03-10-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Have the PDF color chart converted into JPG
      and tried to upload here in the forum
      but somehow it doesn't work..... 😕😟😢

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      Post #69720, posted on 03-11-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      the PRIDEbird :
      Have the PDF color chart converted into JPG
      and tried to upload here in the forum
      but somehow it doesn't work..... 😕😟😢



      Can you upload it to "My Photos"? I wasn't aware of this feat until recently. It would help to see your chart for sure.

      Thanks for all your comments, lichtjahre I agree with you, and yes the FS36320 is very convincing. Looking at pictures on the internet the color seems to vary a lot, which confuses me even more. Good to know the perfect match of Revell 374, but I can't get one here

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      Post #69739, posted on 03-12-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Tried to insert the chart here without success.



      That was the last attempt - it worked!

      Can't believe it!!!!! 👍😃
      Okay, however I hope it might be of interest.

      Sven

      Remark: This chart shows not only the aircraft colors but also for all LH related items (print material, boarding cards, interior colors etc).

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      Post #69740, posted on 03-13-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Here's a link to another PDF.
      Interesting are the pages 6-8 which describes the colors.
      This PDF is standard for Lufthansa City Center - the blue is different,
      yellow and the shades of grey are the same.

      http://te01.lcc-24.com/file/static/TE01/files/25421/Markenhandb09_LCC_final.pdf

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      Post #69741, posted on 03-13-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      I'm glad you managed to upload, Sven.
      Which of the grey shades in your color chart actually refers to the fuselage color used?

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      Post #69742, posted on 03-13-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      lichtjahre :
      I'm glad you managed to upload, Sven.
      Which of the grey shades in your color chart actually refers to the fuselage color used?

      Cheers,
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      It's really really hard to say which shade is the 100% correct grey and also very confusing.
      A lot of hard work to research and compare the various color code designations (RAL, NCS, Pantone, FS etc).
      I believe the truth could only tell us someone from LH-Technik paint shop.
      As you mentioned above, Christian, Revell 374 was made especially for the LH kits and RAL 7001 was used by
      GAF and it's not LH grey.
      On the other hand - have googled for hours last night and found out Revell 374 IS RAL 7001 which is also
      designated as RAL 7001 in REVELL's colour chart. That would contradict itself.
      REV 374 looks really a touch too dark even if the underside of the aircraft really looks darker in cloudy weather.
      In that case the grey looks total different. It looks brighter on a sunny day and you could mean
      these are two completely different shades of grey.

      I would say the "right" grey is RAL 7004 Signalgrau which is not in Revell's paint range but matches with
      grey #2 NCS 3500 PAN Cool Grey 6 and grey #3 NCS 4000 Pan Cool Grey 7. Or somewhat in between.
      The color differences are so minimal that they are barely perceptible to the human eye.
      Enter "RAL 7004 NCS" into Google and you find HEX #9B9B9B which is grey #3.
      I would prefer this one.

      TO MAKE IT CLEAR: I really don't know which is the 100% perfect LH grey and I don't claim it.
      The chart sould be a refference only. It is an official Lufthansa document.
      For those who don't use Revell colors and looking for some equal. You may compare by yourself.
      It was meant only as an answer to CanalGuna's question.

      Sven

      some links here that could help further:
      http://rgb.to/ral/7004
      https://www.magasindepeinture.ch/de/konverter-ral-ncs.html?sl=de
      http://www.e-paint.co.uk/Colour_alternatives.asp?filter2=All&cRange=RAL+Classic&cRef=RAL+7004

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      Post #69807, posted on 03-19-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Very interesting info (thanks!) and debate. To me Ral 7004 also looks good.

      Maybe we can have a subforum on these kind of info? or pinned? along with corrections to make, cut-off diagrams, etc...

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