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      Post #69547, posted on 02-22-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      For anyone who can speak from experience: Can Model Master non-buffing Aluminum lacquer be masked without risk of lifting after applied and allowed to dry? How long should it be allowed to dry before masking? And, does it give a realistic looking natural metal finish comparable to that of Alclad II Aluminum?

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      Post #69548, posted on 02-22-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      HI Todd,

      I used Model Master buffing Alu some years ago
      for Airfix Air France Caravelle, LH 707 & 727 etc.

      Don't know how non-buffing works but
      think it might be similar.
      Finally it's only a different shade of Alu.
      The composition and consistency of the laquer should be the same

      It gaves a nice natural finish of polished metal.
      I was completely satisfied with the look.
      But it came up when I removed the masking film
      and needs a clear coating.
      Had no Future at that time and Model Master Clear Coat wasn't available.
      So I used unavoidably somewhat else.
      After coating it doesn't look so good anymore.

      Today I wouldn't probably use it again.
      Or - might be better - mask and airbrush the other area(s)
      first and apply Model Master at last.
      And don't know how it works with Future.

      That's my experience and speak for my own.

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      Post #69552, posted on 02-22-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      I hope you have good luck with the Model Master metal lacquer, and please consider posting photos of you results. After using Alclad aluminum twice with disappointing results (too dark), I've pretty much sworn off metallic lacquers as not being worth the considerable prep work they require. Aside from being able to mask over Alclad, that was the only benefit. Best of luck to you.

      Never put off for tomorrow what can dry overnight

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      Post #69553, posted on 02-22-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      The non-buffing stuff gives a matte aluminum appearance, akin to painted aluminum, not natural metal. It's been ages since I used it, but as I recall it's pretty tough once dry. How long does it have to dry? Depends on a thousand factors. It's dry when it's dry.

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      Post #69991, posted on 05-03-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Try using AK Interactive True Metal. Comes out of a tube as a paste and is applied with a deft finger and a piece of rag. Absolute magic.

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      Post #69992, posted on 05-03-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      Try using AK Interactive True Metal. Comes out of a tube as a paste and is applied with a deft finger and a piece of rag. Absolute magic.

      Boeing Bob.



      Ak's Xtreme Metal is amazing as well if you prefer to spray it.

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      Post #69995, posted on 05-03-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Is the AK Xtreme Metal a pretty tough finish?

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      Post #69996, posted on 05-03-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      The AK is a "wax based" paint. How is it different from Rub-N-Buff (which looks great, but is VERY fragile)?

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      Post #69997, posted on 05-03-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      Is the AK Xtreme Metal a pretty tough finish?



      I've been very happy with it. As far as metallic finishes go (Well of the ones I've used, Alclad, Metal Master Metalizers, namely) I've found it to be by far the most durable. It's also quite easy to spray. You can almost flood it on (I actually have on accident). I will look terrible at first but it dries back beautiful every time. I've also masked over it with de-tacked tape with very little to no issue. I like it FAR better than anything else I've used.

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      Post #69998, posted on 05-03-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      Are you using the liquid or the paste? I just did a search, and I can't find the paste for sale anywhere.

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      Post #70000, posted on 05-04-2018 GMT-5 hours    
      I like the Tamiya gloss aluminum TS-17 for a metal finish. You can mask it and decals will set on it. A shot of semi gloss after it is complete will take some of the shine off or you can dull coat it to give it a more metallic look.

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      Post #70003, posted on 05-04-2018 GMT-5 hours    
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      Jennings :
      Are you using the liquid or the paste? I just did a search, and I can't find the paste for sale anywhere.



      I'm using this "stuff": https://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/paint/aki/paint_aki_metal.shtml

      Its an enamel. I've never used the wax based metalizer but I've seen some pretty nice finishes with it.

      Chris

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