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      Post #66612, posted on 03-23-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I have always been under the impression that the Heller 1/100 Caravelle kit morphed into the Lindberg/Revell/ kit at a later date. However, after recently acquiring a Heller kit, I compared the moldings and they are distinctly different kits. Of course the Lindberg " visable" caravelle was different ( or not). Maybe our astute guru, Mr. Jennings can shed some light on the lineage of these kits and clear my admittedly cloudy memory. Did Heller morph from FROG ? Did Revell retool the Heller kit to " fit the box" ? 1/100 or 1/96 scale ? YIKES !!

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      Post #66613, posted on 03-23-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      No clue. I've never laid eyes on either one. Sorry.

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      Post #66615, posted on 03-23-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Insureart, I've had both kits and they are absolutely nothing like each other. The Heller makes a very nice model, though only of the prototype, and only up to a point. The Lindberg is more robust and cruder in all respects, and represents the initial service version. Heller scale is distinctly smaller at 1/100 than Lindberg's 1/96. The two other players in near-100-scale that I have seen and owned are Revell and Kader, both 1/100. Very similar kits in breakdown (the inexplicable helmet nose, for instance), but again entirely different. I trust this helps!

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      Post #66618, posted on 03-23-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks, that's a big help. They are all different I can safely assume.

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      Post #66652, posted on 03-25-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      It is interiesting, that I know about 6 Caravelles in 1/100.(1/96).
      The Lindbergh one.
      The Revell one
      The VEB one
      The Heller one
      The Faller one (still missing in my collection)
      The Novo one

      And they are all different! Some same ideas in splitting parts, etc, but differnet sprues!
      Everything about models in 1/100 (in german) you can find here.Focus is on VEB and Faller.
      http://www.familie-wimmer.com/hobby/hr06/index.html

      If you add 1/144 )
      Airfix
      Mistercraft
      F-RSIN
      Welsh
      AModel
      (1/200 Heller not to forget, even Mach-2 1/72)
      Perhaps the most molded Airliner Model ever?

      Nice Weekend for everybody,
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      Post #66654, posted on 03-25-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      Perhaps the most molded Airliner Model ever?


      I wish Most moulded, perhaps. Best moulded, hhhmmm...

      The Heller model remains my favourite in terms of fidelity. The 'face' is definitely there, seen from the front. Unfortunately, it is seriously "chinless" in profile. The kit is of the shorter prototype, so needs a stretch.

      The Frog/Novo also looks the business, but that is a very subjective old impression I have from the late 80s when I last built one.

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      Post #66668, posted on 03-25-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks, Uwe for the compilation. I have in 1/144 what appears to be a knock off of the Airfix kit from Poland. The logo on the package is "PZW" for Podlaskie Zaklady Wytworcze. It has the same parts breakdown and even the same Air France decals as the Airfix kit. Just thought you could add that to your 1/144 list. I am always appreciative of your input to these forums.

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      Post #66671, posted on 03-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      "Thanks, Uwe for the compilation. I have in 1/144 what appears to be a knock off of the Airfix kit from Poland. The logo on the package is "PZW" for Podlaskie Zaklady Wytworcze. It has the same parts breakdown and even the same Air France decals as the Airfix kit. Just thought you could add that to your 1/144 list. I am always appreciative of your input to these forums. "

      Hello,
      I think you are talking about this:

      http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/FirstLook/MisterCraft/SE210_Caravelle/MiC_SE210_Caravelle.html

      In Germany it was realeased under Mistercraft in two dirfferent boxings in the meanwhile.....

      Greetings
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      Post #66674, posted on 03-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Yes. Thanks for the picture. I recently sold one just like the one in the photo. Same as Airfix and PZW. Thank you again. Happy Modeling. Do you have a Heller Dassault Mercure you would sell ? Regards, Art

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      Post #66677, posted on 03-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      Hello,
      I think you are talking about this:

      http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/FirstLook/MisterCraft/SE210_Caravelle/MiC_SE210_Caravelle.html



      Ok, it is a basic kit by today's standard but I am surprised at how clean it looks.

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      Post #66683, posted on 03-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      Ok, it is a basic kit by today's standard but I am surprised at how clean it looks.



      The main undercarriage bay is in the wrong place, a fault inherited from the Airfix original......

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      Or maybe itís MAYBELLINE...............

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      Post #66684, posted on 03-26-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      The Frog/Novo also looks the business, but that is a very subjective old impression I have from the late 80s when I last built one.



      The Frog/Novo kit is 1/96 scale & is mostly accurate except for the shape of the engine nacelles......

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      Post #66690, posted on 03-27-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      @insureheart:
      I am sorry, I do not have a Heller Mercure to sell. Just the one in my holy collection.
      :-)

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      Post #66691, posted on 03-27-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Is the Heller real in 1/100?
      Not in 1/125 as their other airliner kits?
      I never saw the sprues of Heller's Caravelle
      but I would like....👍
      Here in the database I couldn't find anything....

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      Post #66692, posted on 03-27-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I have in my hand at the moment, A Heller Caravelle kit which plainly states "Eschelle 1/100" on the box. So, yes, it is dissimilar when considering the Heller DC9, 737, and Mercure which are all 1/125 scale kits. Of course, Heller also did a 1/200 Caravelle kit some time ago.