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      Post #66478, posted on 03-17-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Guys,

      Anyone know of a Q400 kit in the future? AA OR BPK?

      I had heard somewhere that was a new kit coming though not sure if it was 1/72 or 1/144th.

      Thanks

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      Post #66481, posted on 03-17-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I waiting patiently!!! if so yeppy

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      Post #66484, posted on 03-17-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Haven't heard anything of one.

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      Post #66486, posted on 03-17-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      If you want one in 1/72 you'll probably have a long wait.

      Have you overlooked the Welsh Models 1/144 kit? http://www.welshmodels.co.uk/SL308.html

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      Post #66487, posted on 03-17-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      The Nazca 144: looks sold out but maybe someone will sell theirs or eBay it.

      http://www.nazca-decals.com/html/dash-8-400.htm

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      Post #66488, posted on 03-17-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      The Nazca 144: looks sold out but maybe someone will sell theirs or eBay it.


      I've long wished the Nazca DHC-8/Q400 kits would come back, because they look very nice, and anyone who's hung around KSEA knows the Horizon Q400s carried no end of interesting special schemes.

      For as common as the DHC-8 is I'm surprised we haven't seen a new kit in either 1:144 or 1:72. I'm looking at fixing up the Hobbycraft 1:72 kit to build a US Airways -100 I rode on a few years ago, and after comparing the Hobbycraft plastic to the DHC structural drawings, it may be easier for me to build a full-scale DHC-8 in my backyard. We need Amodel or somebody to come to our rescue in 1:72, because the word for the Hobbycraft kit is "ouch." 1:144 may be even better, since it would match other airliners and take less space and all that good stuff.

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      Post #66490, posted on 03-17-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Do you guys have something against Welsh Models?

      As I said before, they produce a pretty decent resin 1/144 Q400. In my view it's better than the Nazca kit which has absolutely no detail.

      Welsh also produce the DHC-8-100 and -300 in 1/144. I haven't seen either kit first hand but they are the usual Welsh Models vac form fuselage, resin flying surfaces and metal props.

      Why not support one of our longest-established "cottage industry" manufacturers?

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      Post #66492, posted on 03-18-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I forgot all about the Welsh Q400 and didn't even know Nazca had done one.

      Anyway I've just picked one up from Hannants.

      A local store had mentioned the fellow from BPK was going to do a Q400 in 1/144th and 1/72.
      I don't know hat their connection is with BPK or how much truth to it there is.

      We'll see...........

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      Post #66493, posted on 03-18-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I recently built the Welsh Dash-8-100. It is a very nice full-resin kit, with just a few minor, but easily-addressed fit and shape issues. I'll buy another one, eventually. I haven't seen their Q400 kit in person, but the photos of it look pretty good. Platz's Dash-8-100 was very nice, too, if you can find one. Based on photos, the shapes look like they might be a little better than Welsh's, especially the engine nacelles. Nazca's engine nacelles look like they might need some reshaping forward of the wing, like Welsh's nacelles. Sasquatch's kit from the '90s had a pretty good shape, but I thought the nose area around the cockpit wasn't quite right. The nacelles are shaped a little better than Welsh's. Due to the limited-run nature of the injected plastic parts, I found it to be a difficult build.

      The Hobbycraft 1/72 kit has a lot of accuracy issues. I once took one out on the ramp to compare it with the 1:1 Dash-8-100 I was flying at the time, and decided it would be more work than I was willing to put into it to fix all of the shape problems with the kit.

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      Post #66494, posted on 03-18-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      Do you guys have something against Welsh Models?

      Why not support one of our longest-established "cottage industry" manufacturers?



      I'm well aware that Welsh has a DHC-8 kit on the market. Having owned and built more Welsh kits than I can count the last two decades or so, I know well Welsh kits' advantages and disadvantages. Perhaps I have my own reasons for wanting to see the Nazca kits come back, or why I would like to see an even newer kit developed.

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      Post #66495, posted on 03-18-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I have a confession....I'm the person who created the 1/144 Dash8-100 master for Sasquatch Models.

      It was my first attempt at creating a master model aircraft. With scaled drawings in hand (copied and sized from Horizon Air's master manual), off I went to the work bench. The master was created from clear acrylic 1/2 rounds, and various thickness of clear sheet acrylic. Learned the process from Rareliners (i.e. their Metro kit). A Unimat mini lathe was used to machine several areas, the balance was hand filed and sanded. Once the master was completed, all the acrylic parts were turned over to Dean Slaybaugh whom created resin and injections molds for manufacturing.

      In late 2001, I was contacted by Jun Shidara,a consultant to Platz. He, and the team at Platz had questions about the Sasquatch kit as they were in the process of creating the molds for their kit. We exchanged several emails (still have them). Platz called my Dash-8 creation the "spiritual forerunner" to the Platz kit. Of note, I received the very first production Platz 1/144 Dash8-100 kit in the USA. The kit is wonderful in every aspect. The one piece fuselage, and photo etch props are amazing.

      I wish I was able to retrieve my master before it was sold to CBS Models. I made contact with EJ's (CBS owner) daughter after his passing. To see if I could purchase my master from her. She had no idea what I was talking about, even after sending her photos of an un-built kit. After further telephone conversations she said her son would search for the master at EJ's shop. I followed up some weeks later, she would not return my telephone calls. My guess everything in the CBS Model's shop went to the dump.

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      Post #66504, posted on 03-19-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Hi Rodger,

      Thank you for posting! You have reminded me to try to be more objective when describing a kit to others, so they can draw their own conclusions about a kit. I apologize for my weak attempt at humor when describing your work, and I've edited my post accordingly. By the way, the model I was describing is still in my display case, sporting a Henson/Piedmont Commuter livery.

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      Post #66509, posted on 03-19-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Rodger,
      For what its worth you did a fantastic job with the Sasquatch Dash 8-100, by far one of my favorite commuter kits.
      I purchased many of them from EJ at CBS years ago when I used to stop by his shop and chat for hrs and hrs
      on my way back to Houston.
      Again, Great Job!!!

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      Post #66510, posted on 03-19-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      Hi Rodger,

      Thank you for posting! You have reminded me to try to be more objective when describing a kit to others, so they can draw their own conclusions about a kit. I apologize for my weak attempt at humor when describing your work, and I've edited my post accordingly. By the way, the model I was describing is still in my display case, sporting a Henson/Piedmont Commuter livery.

      Regards,
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      Ben, I have thick skin. Sasquatch Models was an outlet for Dean Slaybaugh to stay active in his retirement. He could not sit still, and loved working with his hands (retired TWA mechanic). Dean loved model airliners, and especially commuter aircraft. This was an area that the large model kit manufactures had little interest in (not enough sales to warrant the expense of making molds). Thus his desire was to create kits that nobody else would attempt.

      The Sasquatch injection molding machine was first constructed by Clint Groves of ATP, and was soon purchased by Dean. Clint wanted Dean to manufacture some small kits for ATP.

      Dean spent countless hours re-engineering the machine so it would be able to produce larger quantities of kits. He had guidance from a master modeler in Seattle that had built such a machine. The injection molding machine was very limited as to how large a mold it could fill with heated styrene plastic. I could go on about this part of the process for hours. Early on I was there nearly every day before I went off to my full time job at Republic Airlines. When I started work for Evergreen International, I could no longer help Dean in design and production.

      Dean also ventured heavily into resin casting, enabling him to make larger aircraft that had both resin and plastic parts. He was a pioneer of sorts.

      Yes, the kits were crude at best. Dean put his heart and soul into each one. His wife hand made the boxes. Dean typed the instruction sheet and ran copies. Nothing fancy by any means. Bottom line he just didn't have the skills that would take him to the next level of quality. This was truly a "Garage Hobby Business", as it was in his garage.

      Dean was a great man, and a tremendous friend. Not afraid to try anything once. I miss him him terribly.

      Boy did I take this off topic....my apologies.

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      Post #66532, posted on 03-19-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Oh boy opened a can of worms with this topic.

      Anyway it is all Dash 8 conversation.It would be interesting to see the numbers of older generation Dash eights produced to the current Q400 as maybe it would stir up interest in a new injection kit.

      I remember seeing the Sasquatch Dash 8 as well as the Metro. Then turn 20 years later with Cad etc and the Platz Dash 8.

      No worries! It's nice Roger to see a little history and story telling of how it was with some of our esteemed model pattern makers and model airliner sales people of the past.

      Now waiting patiently for the Welsh Q400 to be dropped on my doorstep.

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      Post #66543, posted on 03-20-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      Andrew :
      Oh boy opened a can of worms with this topic.

      Anyway it is all Dash 8 conversation.It would be interesting to see the numbers of older generation Dash eights produced to the current Q400 as maybe it would stir up interest in a new injection kit.

      I remember seeing the Sasquatch Dash 8 as well as the Metro. Then turn 20 years later with Cad etc and the Platz Dash 8.

      No worries! It's nice Roger to see a little history and story telling of how it was with some of our esteemed model pattern makers and model airliner sales people of the past.

      Now waiting patiently for the Welsh Q400 to be dropped on my doorstep.


      Andrew, I'm sure you will be very happy with the Welsh kit. I love to tell the stories I have about Clint Groves, Dean Slaybaugh, and Jim Childs (Flight Designs). I wish they all could be here with us to see the latest innovations in model airliner kits and decals.

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      Post #66545, posted on 03-20-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      What a nice story about the oldie guys and the past of our hobby, Cabforward !!!

      Luiz Claudio