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      Post #66159, posted on 02-21-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Question for you all?
      Is there a DC-10/MD-11 detail decal set out there in 1/144 that includes
      The banjo frames decal?

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      Post #66160, posted on 02-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Yes Walter, it is this ATP decal.

      http://www.airlinercafe.com/photo_8893.details

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      Post #66161, posted on 02-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks Gene,
      Pretty basic but the frames are there alright!
      I might even have that one in the stash!

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      Post #66162, posted on 02-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Just wondering why are they're called 'banjo' frames?

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      Post #66163, posted on 02-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      Just wondering why are they're called 'banjo' frames?



      If you were to look at the uninstalled frames from the front aspect, they would look like a big circle (around the shape of the engine inlet) with a long neck (leading up into the vertical tail), resembling the shape of a banjo.

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      Post #66165, posted on 02-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I don't see any banjos, and I play one! And a long neck one, at that.


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      Post #66167, posted on 02-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Ohh nice!
      Visual cue
      Now I see why they are called banjo frames

      Other than the ATP decal, no one does a detail set that includes banjo frames? Huh!
      I dont even see them in the Nazca DC-10 detail set either.
      Mandatory for an AA bird
      I guess I will spray them on.

      J you have a profile of the #2 engine on DC-10/MD-11 I can use as a painting reference?


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      Walter

      http://s297.photobucket.com/user/CALTECHphoto/media/DC-10%20MD-11%202%20inlet_zpsnblrtxie.jpg.html?sort=3&o=20

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      Post #66169, posted on 02-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      From my **long** delayed DC-10 family illustration project... The banjo frames are the four angled ribs at the center of the nacelle.


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      Post #66170, posted on 02-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks for the info Jodie, now I see why they're called that!

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      Post #66172, posted on 02-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      I read these banjo frames, forged if my memory is correct, were the most expensive individual parts designed by MDD, I guess a few $ 100'000s per unit. Mind you, anything related to aviation is amazingly expensive, I recently watched an interview in which an airline manager mentioned 1st Class suites could almost cost $ 1 milion per complete unit, probably talking about the most luxurious ones.

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      Beautiful tail profile !

      I like the subtle curves around the intake, especially the pylon joining the tail to the fuselage : the intersection between the intake lower surface and pylon produces a demarcation line which is curved and NOT straight, as seen on most other drawings, including large size ones.

      Well done !

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      Post #66173, posted on 02-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
      Thanks J
      Exactly what I needed!!

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      Post #66174, posted on 02-22-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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      Beautiful tail profile !

      I like the subtle curves around the intake, especially the pylon joining the tail to the fuselage : the intersection between the intake lower surface and pylon produces a demarcation line which is curved and NOT straight, as seen on most other drawings, including large size ones.

      Well done !



      Thanks. Someday I need to finish that project. The fuselage is about 80% done, and the many variations on the vertical fin and #2 engine are mainly done (still working on the DC-10-10 variations). Haven't even started the wings or wing mounted engines yet.

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