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Post #65228, posted on 12-20-2016 GMT-5 hours    
In the case of the 737 MAX, I'd personally prefer to wait a while for an injection-molded kit. It may well happen that the present 737 MAX configuration will stay stable through the 500th or 5,000th MAX, but I've also seen it happen that in-service experience and testing brings changes that become various degrees of bother for the modeler to correct.

The 737-800 is a safe bet and looks like it will be a most definite improvement on the Revell kit. Having flown more miles on NGs than I really want to think about, they are old familiar friends by now, so I'm very glad to see this kit and am eager to get one in my workshop.

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Post #65229, posted on 12-20-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Oddly, as much as I've flown in my life, I've only logged a few trips on NG's, and all of those within the past 6 years! LOADS of 737-200 hours in my butt, and a few on "classics" (which in my mind are the -100 and -200...), but relatively few on the NG family. I was surprised to learn the -700 has legs to fly a KSEA-KBWI nonstop!


Speaking of the NG, does anyone know what line number was the last one built with eyebrow cockpit windows?? Not something I've researched, but maybe someone else has?? Likewise, the first line number with the later style hot section cowling??

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Post #65233, posted on 12-20-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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I was surprised to learn the -700 has legs to fly a KSEA-KBWI nonstop!



I've done that very trip on a -700. Twice. It's a five-and-a-half hour triumph of the human spirit, with 142 of your closest friends aboard. After the second time, it took a while for me to want to see a -700 again...even so, I do hope there will come decals for both the -700 and -800 for a certain airline that has a major presence at KBWI (ahem), not to mention a definitive sheet for the -824s and -924ERs I grew very fond of before a certain merger a few years ago.

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Post #65234, posted on 12-21-2016 GMT-5 hours    
SEA-BWI is nothing. You guys should see what Copa does with their 737-800s! MVD-PTY is 1,000 miles longer than SEA-BWI and has a flying time of over 7 hours! They actually have a handful of routes on the 737NG that are over 3,000 miles. I'm curious to know what kind of seat caps Copa gets hit with due to performance limitations, but pretty interesting routes nonetheless. Also, Alaska used to fly the 737-700 on ORD-ANC, which is over 2,800 miles, before they upgraded the route to larger gauge.

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Post #65235, posted on 12-21-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Hi Jennings,

Southwest's N200WN (ln 1638, MSN 32482) was the first delivered without the eyebrow windows and with the VGs just forward of the windshield. Presumably ln 1637 would be the last with the eyebrows AFAIK.

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Post #65236, posted on 12-21-2016 GMT-5 hours    
And of course WestJet currently operates a transatlantic service from Gatwick to Canada using 737 equipment........

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Post #65242, posted on 12-21-2016 GMT-5 hours    
The new exhaust came online sometime in 2011, IIRC, but I don't know if it was optional or build standard from then on. Living in Seattle, I can hardly avoid the NGs: AS/DL/WN all fly them, and when I go down to RNT for flight training, there's even more!!

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Post #65245, posted on 12-22-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Hi LH707,

You are correct. The Performance Improvement Package (PIP) engine modification was first delivered in July 2011 with 737-81B (ln 3700, msn 38964) according to Boeing documentation.

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Post #65256, posted on 12-22-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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However, Zvezda seem to only produce what Aeroflot fly/flew. Yes, there exceptions like the 748



I don't understand why they didn't do the A321 and 777-300ER kits with Aeroflot decals, being as both types are used by them.

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Post #65258, posted on 12-22-2016 GMT-5 hours    
Zvezda's decals have never been much to write home about as far as I'm concerned...

Maybe once this kit comes out (and I have a life back...) Liveries Unlimited will make another appearance!

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Post #65384, posted on 01-01-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Just here wondering `aloud'... and looking at the brief winglet discussion above.... if the Zvezda kit will allow the early no-winglet version to be done (easily).

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Post #65387, posted on 01-01-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Their CAD shows all three types - as-built wing tip, regular winglet, and split scimitar winglet (MAX type, but apparently they're fixing that).

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Post #65820, posted on 01-30-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Any updates??

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Post #65823, posted on 01-30-2017 GMT-5 hours    
me too... I an anxiously waiting updates and release of the kit!!!

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Post #65826, posted on 01-30-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Zvezda aren't exactly known for being speedy. You'll likely wait months for any more news.

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Post #65828, posted on 01-31-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Jennings,
a reincarnation of Liveries Unlimited would be G R E A T L Y appreciated!

The decal series you did in the past is of outstanding quality and a joy to work with
as are your recent and truly amazing IL-62M decals.

I look very forward to news on this topic and I know - time is the biggest issue...as always.

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Post #66249, posted on 03-01-2017 GMT-5 hours    
https://www.facebook.com/Zvezda.ModelKits/photos/pcb.911480818954723/911480652288073/?type=3

First test shots, something odd about the tail fin

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Post #66250, posted on 03-01-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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First test shots, something odd about the tail fin



It is not that strange. The moveable part (rudder if I am not mistaken) is a separate part and will have to be added as well as the tail cone. Actually it looks just like the Revell offering except for these parts if you ask me.

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Post #66251, posted on 03-01-2017 GMT-5 hours    
just from seeing it, i would say the window stripe looks like it is at the correct position compared to revell.

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Post #66252, posted on 03-01-2017 GMT-5 hours    
They incorrectly plugged two mid-cabin windows on the right side. Pretty big error, IMO. Bad news for anybody wanting to finish this thing with clear windows.

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Post #66253, posted on 03-01-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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They incorrectly plugged two mid-cabin windows on the right side. Pretty big error, IMO. Bad news for anybody wanting to finish this thing with clear windows.



Bear in mind that this is nothing but a cloud of electrons at this point, and that the winglets show the MAX style split scimitars that Zvezda has already said they will change before the kit becomes plastic.

I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist over one missing window just yet.

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Post #66255, posted on 03-01-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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They incorrectly plugged two mid-cabin windows on the right side. Pretty big error, IMO. Bad news for anybody wanting to finish this thing with clear windows.



Bear in mind that this is nothing but a cloud of electrons at this point, and that the winglets show the MAX style split scimitars that Zvezda has already said they will change before the kit becomes plastic.



Buuuut it just did become plastic as seen in the photos linked above by cesare747

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Post #66256, posted on 03-01-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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They incorrectly plugged two mid-cabin windows on the right side. Pretty big error, IMO. Bad news for anybody wanting to finish this thing with clear windows.





Which one is second?

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Post #66261, posted on 03-01-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Yep that's an error. Fatal? I don't know. About 98% of people will fill the windows in anyway. How mind-bendingly difficult is it to drill a hole though? Have we become that dependent on others to do our modeling for us?

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Post #66264, posted on 03-02-2017 GMT-5 hours    
I have used a small square and a rounded file to make a 737 window in my shortened Revell fuselage to make a 737-700. With the square one it was quite easy to open up the window and the rounded one was used to make the corners. I must say I always use those metallic outline decals to cover minor inaccuracies, without them I would go for filling them up and using AA window decals. For each their own but it's not impossible to open it up.
The rest of the kit looks tasty, by the way!

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Post #66267, posted on 03-02-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Maybe someone could post that corrective picture on zvezdas facebook page, though i guess its too late

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Post #66270, posted on 03-02-2017 GMT-5 hours    
One fewer window I have to fill!... I'll let myself out.

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Post #66271, posted on 03-02-2017 GMT-5 hours    
If one does a general search for 737-800, plenty of photos come up with that exact window configuration. Or am I missing something?

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Post #66275, posted on 03-02-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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If one does a general search for 737-800, plenty of photos come up with that exact window configuration. Or am I missing something?



The right side is incorrect. It should only have 1 plugged window. The left side is the side that has two plugged windows.

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Post #66420, posted on 03-11-2017 GMT-5 hours    



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Post #66421, posted on 03-11-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Exciting! Any wing sprue shots?

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Post #66422, posted on 03-11-2017 GMT-5 hours    
I see 3 different wingtip options. Nice. But I'm not seeing the engines' inboard strake.
Or did I miss it?

Funny thing about those bits. ZV doesn't supply them with the 787-8. But they do have them
on the 787-9, and the 777-300. I wonder why they're not in all of the kits, as they should be.

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Post #66423, posted on 03-11-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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I see 3 different wingtip options. Nice. But I'm not seeing the engines' inboard strake.
Or did I miss it?


Over the Intake Part, left of the Elevator.

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Post #66424, posted on 03-11-2017 GMT-5 hours    
So they fixed the incorrect window arrangement on the RH side it appears...

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Post #66427, posted on 03-12-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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So they fixed the incorrect window arrangement on the RH side it appears...



Yes they fixed it, the designer of this model thanked for the timely prompting.

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Post #66428, posted on 03-12-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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Exciting! Any wing sprue shots?


Not yet. I'm afraid that we'll see the kit already. The kit will be in UTair livery.

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So they fixed the incorrect window arrangement on the RH side it appears...



Yes they fixed it, the designer of this model thanked for the timely prompting.



Oh thank goodness. The sun will continue to rise in the east now!

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Post #66430, posted on 03-12-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Any wing flaps with this beauty like how the A320/321 has it???

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Post #66431, posted on 03-12-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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Any wing flaps with this beauty like how the A320/321 has it???



Not per the CAD images (this is a good thing).

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I see 3 different wingtip options. Nice. But I'm not seeing the engines' inboard strake.
Or did I miss it?


Over the Intake Part, left of the Elevator.

Marco



Got it. Thanks Marco.

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Post #66436, posted on 03-13-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Great to see there are provisions to build an early or a late 737NG.

AFAIC, nevermind the lack of extended slats/flaps, I will be happy if they continue releasing buttoned-up airliner kits of that quality.

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Post #66437, posted on 03-13-2017 GMT-5 hours    
They will need to provide two clear cockpit parts (one with and one without eyebrow windows) in order to accurately do an early to mid-build NG. Or else you'll need to sand away the scribing for them for later build airplanes.

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Or else you'll need to sand away the scribing for them for later build airplanes.



What an unsuitable effort.

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They will need to provide two clear cockpit parts (one with and one without eyebrow windows) in order to accurately do an early to mid-build NG. Or else you'll need to sand away the scribing for them for later build airplanes.



It should be very easy to do this modification, at least as easy as drilling a hole (about the plugged window, now rectified by Zvezda) :

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How mind-bendingly difficult is it to drill a hole though?


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They will need to provide two clear cockpit parts (one with and one without eyebrow windows) in order to accurately do an early to mid-build NG. Or else you'll need to sand away the scribing for them for later build airplanes.



I think one side of my brain looked at the other just now and said, "You know, it sure is dark in here...."

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Post #66534, posted on 03-20-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Any News on release Date?

Also, Revell announced last year the release for the LH E190 for March. Guys on Germany, any updated?

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Post #66536, posted on 03-20-2017 GMT-5 hours    
What does a Revell E190 have to do with the Zvezda 738?

Keep em separated!
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Post #66537, posted on 03-20-2017 GMT-5 hours    
I wouldn't look for a specific release date. Zvezda stuff shows up when it shows up.

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Post #66540, posted on 03-20-2017 GMT-5 hours    
Andre,
the release date for the Revell E190 is today but you may want to use the appropriate thread for this topic to reach everyone interested.

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Post #66544, posted on 03-20-2017 GMT-5 hours    
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