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      Post #64781, posted on 10-30-2016 GMT-5 hours    
      Greetings!

      I'm surprised that nobody has remarked about this announcement made on Thursday, October 27th. It will give the Boeing production line a boost. The first ones will be delivered in 2017 and deliveries go through 2020. I'm pretty sure UPS will take up the options unless the airplanes don't perform the job they bought them for, and that is VERY unlikely. They'll haul over 300,000 lbs of cargo more than 4300NM. Our union was told that they will be additional aircraft to the existing fleet and not be for replacing anything we already have, such as the 747-400F. The two airplanes share a common type rating, so the training won't be affected. Our 757 and 767 crews have a common type rating and fly both types just as the -8F and -400F crews will.

      I likely won't be around to see them, and no mention was made as to where they will be domiciled. I never bid the -400F because it was domiciled in PANC (the Classic 747 was domiciled in KSDF) and I would never move there. For that reason, the -400F is a very junior airplane, except for a few senior people who live in PANC.

      I'm happy to see that this beautiful airplane will be joining the fleet regardless of the domicile though.

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      Post #64783, posted on 10-30-2016 GMT-5 hours    
      Great to have another order for the 747. Beautiful indeed!



      Wish we could get some more orders for the 747-8i.

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      Post #64784, posted on 10-30-2016 GMT-5 hours    
      What a great looking aircraft.

      I'm Glad it's available in kit form.

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      Post #64786, posted on 10-30-2016 GMT-5 hours    
      That is good news, but aren't UPS one of those airlines that actively seeking out and issue "cease production" notices to model/ decal producers? If we do want brown 748f then we'll have to do it on the sly....

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      Post #64805, posted on 10-30-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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      That is good news, but aren't UPS one of those airlines that actively seeking out and issue "cease production" notices to model/ decal producers? If we do want brown 748f then we'll have to do it on the sly....



      Greetings!

      Yes, you most certainly would be sought out, tracked down, and (to paraphrase Detective Frank Drebbin) "Treated like a common Pygmy" if they got wind of your ill conceived mischief, but we all know that won't stop many of you, don't we?

      One important aspect of this order is that it will save the 747 production line for a while longer, and that makes ME happy!! The near future shutdown of the line would almost certainly have been announced in the next few months if there were no more orders placed, with the two for the 89th MAW being among the last built.

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      Post #64811, posted on 10-31-2016 GMT-5 hours    
      UPS is one of the most aggressive companies out there when it comes to protecting its trademarks. I knew a UPS DC-8 captain who had done a Revell kit up in full UPS colors for himself. He took it in to work to show his fellow pilots and co-workers, and one of the dispatchers at his base told him he was in violation of trademark rules, and that he would have to surrender the model to the company. You'd have to know this guy, but he basically told the guy where he could stuff his company policy ;)

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      Post #64815, posted on 10-31-2016 GMT-5 hours    
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      You'd have to know this guy, but he basically told the guy where he could stuff his company policy ;)



      Greetings!

      So, Jennings.... Was that stuffing in a very dark place?

      It's funny....... They'll sell you a finished model of any of the fleet, but don't want to let you build your own for your personal use only. Chances are I knew the guy in question.

      Apparently the plan is to shuffle the fleet destinations around with the 747-400F going more on the domestic scene and the -8F doing the international, the shuffling being systemwide on all fleet types. Perhaps there will be a 747 domicile in KSDF again, but alas, it will still be too late for me. Having to commute to PANC was not palatable, so I never bid the -400F, although I would have been in the top 16-18 in seniority on it. Some things just are not meant to be.

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      Post #64816, posted on 10-31-2016 GMT-5 hours    
      UPS is also the company whose employee told a friend of mine (quite emphatically) he had no right to photograph their aircraft - on a public airport, from outside airport property on a public road where he was breaking no law whatsoever. He also told the UPS employee where he could put his attitude.

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      Post #64819, posted on 10-31-2016 GMT-5 hours    
      Greetings!

      Yeah, they do go overboard with misused/misplaced enthusiasm. It's a wonder they don't tell people they have no right to look in the direction of a piece of equipment painted in their colors and with their logo parked in the street for a delivery, or a truck stopped at a traffic light. Yeah, yeah, I know that would be the height of ridiculous, but so is the attempt to claim no photographs can be taken in a public place. Paranoia in extremis!

      The only thing like it that ever happened to me was in KPHL when a Delta employee told me he was concerned that I was photographing a Delta 737-232 Advanced when they were just entering the fleet and he was not sure I could legally do that! I assured him that he had nothing to be concerned about, but he kept his eye on me for a while!

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